Aussie vs Kiwi Rivalry

Kiwi3 · 17 Jan 2008, 08:41 (Ref:2107833)

OK let's have it...

Quote from the NZ Herald (quite distorted if you read Martin's actual comments on A1gp.com):

"After achieving just one top-10 finish and only two points from five events so far Australia have dropped driver Ian Dyk for their rookie John Martin, 23, who showed typical Aussie mouth by saying nothing other than wins was acceptable."

Any of you mouthy bloody Aussies care to respond? Just keep it within forum rules please.

Brits and Irish are welcome to open a separate thread.

NAC · 17 Jan 2008, 09:09 (Ref:2107844)

Are you stirring Kiwi3??????

The article isn't actually that bad, it's just a comment saying they haven't performed and are switching drivers
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/s...ectid=10487248

I actually feel for our friends across the ditch and am looking forward to see what Martin can do. After the 1st couple of races season one I truly thought the Aussies were going to be a force to be reckoned with but have become bitterly disappointed. So now I stand by my friends across the ditch hoping they get both car and driver hooked up. Not that hooked up mind you, just enough the be behind NZ

sizzle · 17 Jan 2008, 11:52 (Ref:2107963)

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Originally Posted by Kiwi3

OK let's have it...

Quote from the NZ Herald (quite distorted if you read Martin's actual comments on A1gp.com):

"After achieving just one top-10 finish and only two points from five events so far Australia have dropped driver Ian Dyk for their rookie John Martin, 23, who showed typical Aussie mouth by saying nothing other than wins was acceptable."

Any of you mouthy bloody Aussies care to respond? Just keep it within forum rules please.

Brits and Irish are welcome to open a separate thread.

What is a Kiwi?

Thats right they are the flightless birds leaving their homeland in droves for the land of plenty!

N.A-D.R · 17 Jan 2008, 12:07 (Ref:2107970)

I can see a war coming on this thread.

Well everyone goes for wins when they are entering a championship. I think Martin is very confident in getting the results. But i also do think he wont win a race. He might get a podium if hes lucky. But i hope he can get points for Australia!

Last2LiftOff · 17 Jan 2008, 13:15 (Ref:2108011)

Love it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAC

I actually feel for our friends across the ditch and am looking forward to see what Martin can do.

Yeah, me too NAC...no pressure John.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sizzle

What is a Kiwi?

What's with the extra star on the flag?

N.A-D.R · 17 Jan 2008, 15:27 (Ref:2108087)

No pressure

Martin better do a better job then what Dyk did.

socram · 17 Jan 2008, 18:51 (Ref:2108224)

Agree with #2. Would like to see the Aussies do better, but I am a huge Jonny Reid fan.

socram · 17 Jan 2008, 19:35 (Ref:2108249)

We make the Kiwi racesuits, and this is inside his belt...

Kiwi3 · 18 Jan 2008, 02:09 (Ref:2108464)

One of the most fun races for me was the very first one at Brands Hatch in season one, partly because Matt Halliday and Will Power (I think it was?), were running quite closely near the front of the field. I hope John Martin does well (he has this morning, ahead of Adam Carroll in the rookie session again) so the trans-tasman rivalry can commence on track.

Australia's first win will be a happy day indeed, if they could somehow do it at Eastern Creek would be fantastic.

thejester · 18 Jan 2008, 03:19 (Ref:2108483)

Or would it be more fantastic for Jonny Reid to win at the Creek..?

Stocky · 18 Jan 2008, 03:49 (Ref:2108494)

I think you'll find that the PR spin on those "quotes" makes it sound a lot different to what is really said.

You interview a driver and ask him what he aims to do (dreams of doing) and they will invariably say they want to win races.

No news there.

Ask them if they really think they'll win first time out in an A1 GP car and they will laugh and say hell no, but I hope I can go top 10 or something.

That doesn't quite make as good a headline does it ?

So lets use the first quote

If you get the chance to talk to John Martin you'll find he's quite the opposite.

Sure he wants to win, but there is no ego about it.

If you see him anywhere, any time, he'll chat etc.

He really is a kid on a ride that he still pinches him self to check it's all real and he still can't belive how much fun it is.

sizzle · 18 Jan 2008, 05:39 (Ref:2108517)

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Originally Posted by thejester

Or would it be more fantastic for Jonny Reid to win at the Creek..?

Nah would be much better if Martin got in first this weekend.

Ps. Why do Kiwis drink from saucers?

Kiwi3 · 18 Jan 2008, 06:07 (Ref:2108524)

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Ps. Why do Kiwis drink from saucers?

Copying the Australian habit?

How does everything think John Martin will go on Sunday, he was up there in the rookie session again? I am wondering if he'll end up 5th/6th thereabouts, wonder if I should change my prediction picks.

Last2LiftOff · 18 Jan 2008, 12:05 (Ref:2108700)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sizzle

Ps. Why do Kiwis drink from saucers?

Maybe it's an old joke that just never made it off the island but okay Sizzle, I don't know, why do Kiwis drink from saucers?

sizzle · 18 Jan 2008, 14:28 (Ref:2108812)

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Originally Posted by Last2LiftOff

Maybe it's an old joke that just never made it off the island but okay Sizzle, I don't know, why do Kiwis drink from saucers?

Comes from a time when they lost everything in sight, even the Americas Cup.

"There are no cups in UNZUD."

Had to be there I guess.

kramer · 19 Jan 2008, 03:01 (Ref:2109188)

The extra star on the Australian Flag is the Federation Star. It represents the coming together of the colonies to make up Australia. There are seven points, one for each State and the seventh for the Territories.

Only Will Power and Ryan Briscoe seem to have been able to do anything with the Team Australia car. I wonder if it's that they were the only ones who could convince ADR how the car should be set up. Or maybe they are just that much better than the rest of our open-wheel talent.

I see that John Martin (and I'll echo those remarks about him being a really great young fella) is 12th for the feature race in NZ. Hopefully he can turn things around a bit. But I really think the main problem lies in the team's management. There's been little wrong with several of their drivers, IMO.

Kramer

Last2LiftOff · 19 Jan 2008, 12:45 (Ref:2109339)

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Originally Posted by kramer

The extra star on the Australian Flag is the Federation Star. It represents the coming together of the colonies to make up Australia. There are seven points, one for each State and the seventh for the Territories.

Yeah, 10-4 Kramer. I was just yankin' your chain in the spirit of the thread. Dunno about the rest.

Kiwi3 · 20 Jan 2008, 13:05 (Ref:2109839)

I think the answer is "because Australia won all the cups". It's also an old joke in NZ, just told the other way around.

Promising performance by John Martin on the weekend I thought, perhaps with a bit more experience the competition will become more intense between the two.

strider · 20 Jan 2008, 13:55 (Ref:2109864)

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Originally Posted by kramer

I see that John Martin (and I'll echo those remarks about him being a really great young fella) is 12th for the feature race in NZ. Hopefully he can turn things around a bit. But I really think the main problem lies in the team's management. There's been little wrong with several of their drivers, IMO.

I suppose this has been done to death in the Ian Dyk thread (I'm beginning to feel quite sorry for the guy!), but I agree with your comments there, kramer.

If you look at Team Oz, they're just not in the same ball park as the teams that are winning races. I reckon EnZed will be on top in this particular battle for a long time to come.

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