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Old 24 Mar 2020, 06:45 (Ref:3966423)   #31
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The re-start is going to be an issue assuming that F1 does not race this year which I take as already a done deal. All the engineers and support staff will have to be either permanently let go or laid off with the promise we will get back to you and most will not be able to tolerate that situation for very long. When that occurs and the talent goes elsewhere the teams have got a skills shortage, a lot of the people who designed, built and know the car are gone and then the real problems start. Maybe a long odds possibility but image MB lose a lot key engine design and technical staff to support the PU's at the track for their team and all those they supply, that would not be impossible looking at it today.
Don't know about the teams based outside of the UK but those in the UK should be ok with the support packages in place from the Government for employed workers. It's only those that are self employed contractors who are going to really struggle.
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 07:23 (Ref:3966426)   #32
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Not sure you need to say everyone use GP2 cars next year. They all have 2020 cars which are going to see very little, or no use. Just use those foe 2021.
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 08:30 (Ref:3966437)   #33
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Not sure you need to say everyone use GP2 cars next year. They all have 2020 cars which are going to see very little, or no use. Just use those foe 2021.
There may not be all the teams to use them....
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 09:23 (Ref:3966447)   #34
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Baring in mind that some teams are struggling now and there is the possibility that Mercedes, Red Bull and even Ferrari will pull the pin due to the year of lost revenue I struggle to see how the formula can sustain itself in anything like its current form.

They will necessarily need to row back (unlearn if you will) on all the technology and/or make it all much less complicated. They will need to attract smaller independent teams because the majors will be out of it.

You are absolutely right. It 's just a tragedy that it takes a pandemic to put into focus how absurd it is to blow half a billion quid to enable 2 drivers to race 20 times a year . All racing , ultimately, can be boiled down to its essence of driver A trying to overtake driver B . Stuff like DRS , trick PUs , pit stop strategies and tyre management are incidental distractions , and simpler cars , and races can be every bit as good .
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 11:43 (Ref:3966486)   #35
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 11:50 (Ref:3966489)   #36
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Don't know about the teams based outside of the UK but those in the UK should be ok with the support packages in place from the Government for employed workers. It's only those that are self employed contractors who are going to really struggle.
We'll find out when it re-starts, but my experience over the years says they will walk away.
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 12:21 (Ref:3966506)   #37
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Iím not letting this F1 uncertainty get to me. Iím just hoping that this lockdown saves lives and helps get us through this in time
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 13:11 (Ref:3966526)   #38
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Grosjean saying there is a 'possibility' Haas will be closed down at the end of 2020.

He told Canal Plus that 'it's a possibility that must be taken seriously'
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Grosjean saying there is a 'possibility' Haas will be closed down at the end of 2020.
a lot of employers are saying things like that in order to get their weakest employees to quit instead of being terminated.
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a lot of employers are saying things like that in order to get their weakest employees to quit instead of being terminated.

Thankfully that shouldn't happen in the UK. Here our government is going to pay 80% of each and every employee's wages/salary provided that the employer "furloughs" them. This is to carry on for at least 3 months and be renewed if necessary.
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 15:21 (Ref:3966557)   #41
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Grosjean saying there is a 'possibility' Haas will be closed down at the end of 2020.

He told Canal Plus that 'it's a possibility that must be taken seriously'

Wow! Only a few days ago Steiner was saying their future is secure. Shows how quickly things can change if RoGroís words carry weight
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Wow! Only a few days ago Steiner was saying their future is secure. Shows how quickly things can change if RoGroís words carry weight
I guess the cnc machining market will be hit hard and Gene Haas is largely funding the team himself.
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Old 24 Mar 2020, 15:56 (Ref:3966565)   #43
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In this day and age it I have no idea why F1 uses bespoke engines at all. It seems to be some sort of elitism now, back in previous decades it was necessary but not now as production road engines are so good. I think it is an engineering W**K to tell the truth.
It is possible to allow production-based power units - which are effectively banned nowadays - but impossible to obligate them. For example, Ferrari's power unit pool is entirely different than Honda's one.
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Old 25 Mar 2020, 05:25 (Ref:3966658)   #44
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It is possible to allow production-based power units - which are effectively banned nowadays - but impossible to obligate them. For example, Ferrari's power unit pool is entirely different than Honda's one.
I don't follow. In any case it will never happen as the major manufacturers would not use any motor that is not of their own manufacture and those that aren't manufacturers would still need to find an engine.
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Old 25 Mar 2020, 07:19 (Ref:3966663)   #45
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a lot of employers are saying things like that in order to get their weakest employees to quit instead of being terminated.

In practice that tends to work in reverse-the best get snapped up first and the less good hang around because the gossip from others who have moved on will highlight the good guys and alert their new outfit to the shortcomings of the laggards.I would expect that quite a number of people will be looking around as next year's budget cap may mean fewer people can be afforded.


In the case of Haas I wouldn't know what proportion of their people are at each location. I would suppose that those in Kannapolis could easily be switched to preparing for next year's new model Nascar switch.Whatever happens my feeling is that the people who work in top level racing will have the skills to prosper in just about any working environment and I wish them well at this challenging time.
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