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Old 21 May 2020, 06:18 (Ref:3977457)   #31
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Renault are a long standing racing organisation similar in that respect to Porsche, but their current situation married to the economic impact of COVID19 may lead to a withdrawal on business grounds.
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Old 21 May 2020, 08:20 (Ref:3977467)   #32
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Renault are a long standing racing organisation similar in that respect to Porsche, but their current situation married to the economic impact of COVID19 may lead to a withdrawal on business grounds.
Do you think they'll bail out completely or keep the engine side going? Given that they don't have any customer teams beyond the end of this year could mean they go for a clean break.

The same of course is true for Mercedes and Honda - with the financial impact of covid19 can they justify the outlay? Mercedes could drop their team but keep the engine supply side going - but is that viable without a works team (how much of the engine cost is carried by the works team compared to the customer teams?). I think if Honda bailed then their F1 project would have to be seen as a huge failure.

It's feasible we end up in a situation where the only engine available is the Ferrari unit.....

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Old 21 May 2020, 15:14 (Ref:3977549)   #33
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with the 2020 cars to be used in 2021 plus the 2021 budget cap i think Renault stay. no doubt money will be tight but the sport may look to be a lot more cost effective in 2021 which, if things go back to more normal, races with fans, more prize money, may make it all the more attractive at least as an advertising platform.

Alonso has expressed his desires to return once the cars change/new regulations come into play, but as that has been delayed to 2022 at the earliest...not cars he likes and limited available seats i would bet no Alonso in 2021.

i will admit to not being a huge fan but he is entertaining and talented so i would like to see what he could do at age 40 in an F1 car. and if the new regs actually brings the racing closer then for sure he is (or was) the type of driver i would love to see in that mix.
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Old 21 May 2020, 16:54 (Ref:3977566)   #34
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A 'past it' driver with a 'past it' team, could be interesting.

I say give the youngsters their chance and enter your senility with Indy Car.
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Old 21 May 2020, 18:57 (Ref:3977596)   #35
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It will be tough times, but most should survive. I am sure there will be enough teams on the grid next season, although there is a chance a team wont make it
Please define "tough", "most", "should", "sure, "enough" and "chance" to help me better understand your prediction.
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Old 21 May 2020, 22:52 (Ref:3977626)   #36
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A 'past it' driver with a 'past it' team, could be interesting.

I say give the youngsters their chance and enter your senility with Indy Car.
Opinions on Alonso may differ on a lot of things, but he is not "past it".
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Old 21 May 2020, 23:10 (Ref:3977628)   #37
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I think Alonso has been a bit unpredictable at times, but I expect him to have settled down now and be able to use his experience wisely if he comes back
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Old 24 May 2020, 11:43 (Ref:3978048)   #38
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I think Alonso has been a bit unpredictable at times, but I expect him to have settled down now and be able to use his experience wisely if he comes back
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I actually do think he will be a lot more fresher now hes done a bit of sportscar racing, alongside a bit of Indy and rally raid. So it would make sense for Renault to have him on a pre contract agreement if the rumours are true. A refreshed Alonso with bags of experience would really help a team like Renault at this time
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Opinions on Alonso may differ on a lot of things, but he is not "past it".
Actually we dont know if he is or isn't from an F1 perspective. He is most likely not, but it is an unknown (or in other words, a "risk"). Given the potential for significant salary demands and/or other potential baggage (more risk) he brings, weighing the scale may cause some teams some level of heartburn in making a go, no go decision.

Frankly I hope he returns.

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Old 24 May 2020, 14:12 (Ref:3978073)   #41
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I think Renault will evaluate their options, see whos available. Of course there is a risk with Alonso as you say, but judging by his performances in WEC his racing brain is intact. They wont take this decision lightly, they will no doubt see who else could be a good fit at the team, preferably one whos still on the grid. And of course they know they Alonso to fall back on should there be no other preferable option
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Actually we dont know if he is or isn't from an F1 perspective. He is most likely not, but it is an unknown (or in other words, a "risk"). Given the potential for significant salary demands and/or other potential baggage (more risk) he brings, weighing the scale may cause some teams some level of heartburn in making a go, no go decision.

Frankly I hope he returns.

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Me too. Yes, there's a risk. But I'd take it.
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Old 25 May 2020, 08:12 (Ref:3978182)   #43
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I actually do think he will be a lot more fresher now hes done a bit of sportscar racing, alongside a bit of Indy and rally raid. So it would make sense for Renault to have him on a pre contract agreement if the rumours are true. A refreshed Alonso with bags of experience would really help a team like Renault at this time
Renault have an excellent track record of ignoring advice so I can see Alonso getting a little bit annoyed, I think that would be awesome if it happens. The whole thing has gone quite so we wait for what the parent company is going to do to save the situation before speculation on a driver can be resumed.
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There may not be any Renault to return to, the French finance minister has admitted Renault may "disappear" as a result of the corona crisis.

It was reported last week that the government, which owns a 15 percent stake in the French carmaker, will step in with a EUR 5 billion loan to rescue the embattled marque.

But minister Bruno Le Maire has told Europe 1 radio that the loan will not be granted until "we know what Renault's strategy is".

He admitted that Renault is in "serious financial difficulty", confirming: "Yes, Renault may disappear."

Renault has organised a press conference for Wednesday 27 May, and there are fears and rumours that a severe restructuring plan could involve the axing of the F1 program.


https://www.grandprix.com/news/minis...disappear.html
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I seriously hope that is not the case, but it is looking bleak for the team. Obviously the car company has some financial difficulties at this time. But even if it does impact on the F1 team, I hope they can find a way to stay, even if the involvement from the car company is less. Cyril has said that cost saving will keep the team in F1. That is of course what all of us have been saying the FIA need to seriously consider, how to keep costs down, so teams aren't run out of business
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