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Old 20 Jan 2005, 14:11 (Ref:1205638)   #1
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Cheap track day car??????

Hi,
Anyone got any suggestions what the best car would be (to use as a runabout 2nd car and to use on track days) for cheap money? (around 1k)
I've never done a track day b4 but thinking of trying it out.
would a hot hatch (205 gti, atra gte, golf gti) or would something like a large engined mk1 mondeo or cavalier/vectra be best?
Also would it be worth putting strut braces, cage etc in? (can have these custom made cheaply)
cheers for any info,
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Old 20 Jan 2005, 16:19 (Ref:1205753)   #2
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Something light like 205 GTi or Golf would be ideal, plus making it stiffer (cage, suspension etc) would make it fly.

Have a look for ex-750MC Hot Hatch/Stock Hatch cars, usually easy to make raod legal (if they aren't already),, plus stuff like the cage, suspension and other bits and pieces are already done. Might break the 1k budget though, depends if you want to get your hands dirty.
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Old 20 Jan 2005, 17:55 (Ref:1205814)   #3
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Mk2 Golf 16v - Like mine (click me)

You can create a very handy 150bhp Golf for around 1k.

I'm happy to offer sdvice on the cheap and effective uprgardes
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Old 21 Jan 2005, 15:37 (Ref:1206492)   #4
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Thanx Hobson, great suggestion (would a rally prepped car be ok? as i have some ralliers in the family).
great looking car Tubthumped!!! looks like it flies! what sorta stuff could i do to a GTi to get some more power? (bearing in mind my mechanical limit is oil change/plugs/ break pads ect with a manual : )
Thanks again lads, like i said, at the moment i know nothing so its nice to get some useful info : )
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Old 21 Jan 2005, 17:10 (Ref:1206545)   #5
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Well, it's pretty easy to get 170 bhp from a 2.0 bottom end. Cheap and easy for masses of torque and power.

Brakes can come off a Corrado.
Set of Koni Top adjustables and Eibach ARB's and handling will be more than good enough to enjoy around track. A few more minor changes/upgrades and you will be rattling along.
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Old 22 Jan 2005, 14:00 (Ref:1207133)   #6
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A tarmac-prepped rally car would do just as well.

Theres plenty of Golf engine swaps around, most VR6-powered I think.
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Old 22 Jan 2005, 20:02 (Ref:1207364)   #7
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A tarmac-prepped rally car would do just as well.

Theres plenty of Golf engine swaps around, most VR6-powered I think.

Very few track cars end up VR6 powered - too heavy and not enough go.

Most seem to go for a 2.0 8v or 2.0 16v.
Other options are 1.8 G60 (supercharged), 1.8 20v Turbo (big, big power here)
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Old 22 Jan 2005, 14:23 (Ref:1207144)   #8
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Golf GTi or 205 GTi

Either would be an ideal track day car and would equally be ideal for SPRINTS or HILLCLIMBS!

There are a large number of tarmac prepared cars in the Mod Prod class where in the speed events you can run on slicks!

Best of Luck!

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Old 22 Jan 2005, 20:15 (Ref:1207369)   #9
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Went in my mates Pug gti last week and i was impressed.said hed only paid peanuts for it so maybe worth a look
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Old 23 Jan 2005, 01:28 (Ref:1207533)   #10
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Alfa 155 2.0 16v TS you can get that for about a grand and its a lot of car for the money.
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Old 24 Jan 2005, 16:00 (Ref:1208645)   #11
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Go for a bmw E30 325, they can be had for as little as 250 and have 170bhp as standard and RWD and handle beautifully
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Old 24 Jan 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1208696)   #12
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Little old Golf kicks the E30 M3 ass - so i still vots for the Mk2.
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Old 24 Jan 2005, 17:45 (Ref:1208734)   #13
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Porsche 944 (from 1500 for an early one (165 Bhp) or 5000 for an S2 (211 Bhp) ) or a 924S (same engine but lighter & narrower body for 1000-1200). Both cars have excellent handling.

There are loads about at places like "PH Sportscars" of Shardlow (near Donington Park) and spares are not a problem.
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Old 26 Jan 2005, 09:00 (Ref:1210151)   #14
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Cheers Guy's. andy are spares expensive for the porsche?
Anyone have any views on an 205 mi16 conversion? theres one going on ebay for 950 ish.
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Cheers Guy's. andy are spares expensive for the porsche?
Anyone have any views on an 205 mi16 conversion? theres one going on ebay for 950 ish.
Spares for a Porsche 944 or 924S can be OK. Porsche lowered the prices of early Porsches some time ago and there are plenty of 944s at specialist breakers like PH Sportscars or Lodge Sports (sponsor of the 924 race series). Plus, as long as you buy well, the cars tends to be pretty reliable anway.

About a year ago I decided not to buy a 924S that I had seen at PH for reasons that escape me now (but probably due to the fact that I didn't have the bottle to front up to my wife with a 5th car!). I regret it now, though. The car had only done 90 000 miles with FSH but it had had a slight bang at the front. It was avaialble for 950 sold as seen or 1250 repaired and MOT'd!!! Should have bought, it would have made a great track day car!
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