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18 Sep 2019, 07:21 (Ref:3928633) | #76 | |
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If everything was done right, then why is Seamer suddenly having to defend it?
The comments below the article are entertaining; and it would appear not many seem to be easily fooled. |
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19 Sep 2019, 08:25 (Ref:3928824) | #78 | ||
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I missed the 15% reduction level on first reading. A reduction of 15% hardly seems worth the bother. 85% * 350kgf = 297.5 kgf downforce at 200 km/hr for 2020 Why not reduce the downforce down to 250 kgf at 200 km/hr (28% reduction), or even 150 kgf at 200 km/hr (42% reduction)? [Same goes for the 15hp power reduction (2%). Hardly worth the bother either!] |
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27 Oct 2019, 22:10 (Ref:3937203) | #79 | |
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Surely this has to be looked at again based on the weekends results. Or will it be okay because its Holdens filling all the top spots?
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27 Oct 2019, 22:18 (Ref:3937206) | #80 | |
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Why? The 2 fastest "Fords" took themselves out before the race even started.
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27 Oct 2019, 22:26 (Ref:3937207) | #81 | ||
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However this situation may have been very strategic in it's timing - with only two races left for the year, and new aero set for next year - any proposed adjustment would no doubt be deemed unnecessary. |
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27 Oct 2019, 22:32 (Ref:3937209) | #82 | ||
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Did you not see two of Ford's fastest drivers WRITE THEIR CARS OFF?
Tickford cars home 5, 6 and 7. Last edited by Adam43; 30 Oct 2019 at 11:20. Reason: Offensive language removed. Thanks everyone for the reported post notifications. :) |
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27 Oct 2019, 23:42 (Ref:3937220) | #83 | ||
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Looks very much like over-compensatory driving by two of the best drivers, trying to keep their nobbled cars on the pace. Holden have won their induced "parity" game for now - pity some of their boorish fans are unable to simply appreciate it. |
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27 Oct 2019, 23:52 (Ref:3937221) | #84 | |
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"Dont change the Mustang, it's just Scotty being a freak"
Scotty out. "Why Mustang no win?" |
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28 Oct 2019, 00:21 (Ref:3937224) | #85 | ||
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Parity adjustment based on the weekend not even remotely needed. Leading Mustang (with championship leader admitting that he was "over-driving" & not being smooth enough) was competitive with the leading Commodores on Saturday and IF it had have made a better start and converted its pole position to a lead, the result may have been quite different. On top of that, a.n.other quick Mustang of course binned itself during the shootout - gonski for the weekend.
Then on Sunday the championship leader binned his Mustang during qualifying, his teammate had a difficult race, bit of weirdness with the other Mustangs and the team with the most-experienced & previously successful pairings ran well and won the race in the absence of the best Mustang driver pairings. Nothing stands out as needing a parity change. |
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28 Oct 2019, 01:28 (Ref:3937232) | #86 | ||
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The P word strikes again
If anyone needs a parity adjustment it be the Nissans. In light of their departure of the category they should be able to run the old RB26 or even Nissan’s current GT3 motor for rest of season as a throwback to happier times.
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28 Oct 2019, 01:39 (Ref:3937233) | #87 | ||
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Chaz made an error trying to beat Scott's time, not a Holden's time. Scott was already on provisional pole and was trying to lower his own time even further, which was unnecessary as there was no chance he was missing out on the shootout with the time he had already banked. So neither were trying to match or beat the time of a Holden or Nissan...Chaz was trying to beat Scotty's time, and Scotty was trying to beat Scotty's time. |
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28 Oct 2019, 02:34 (Ref:3937239) | #88 | ||
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yes Tickford were 5th onwards....what were the first four....thats right 4 pugs from 3 different teams? and where did car 12 end up Last edited by Silver GT; 28 Oct 2019 at 02:44. Reason: needed work |
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28 Oct 2019, 02:42 (Ref:3937243) | #89 | ||
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Scotty would have been well aware of his finishing position the day prior, and would have been trying to ensure a strong starting position; given the limited overtaking opportunities on that track, and the increasingly beneficial effects of parity adjustment #6, for the 888 cars in particular. No need to fret though - "parity" is only ever considered or enacted if/when the Mustang is winning. |
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28 Oct 2019, 03:02 (Ref:3937246) | #90 | ||
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There was no need for him to try to lower his time even further given there was still the shoot-out to come. |
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28 Oct 2019, 03:10 (Ref:3937250) | #91 | ||
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oh, but it does make for an interesting 'fight for the championship' at the end of the year.
Would the numbers be down for TV and through the gate if Scott won the championship on the weekend - You betcha. Would Supercars be unhappy about that - you betcha Oh, the sceptic is me is yelling "foul play" but the game goes on |
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28 Oct 2019, 03:20 (Ref:3937253) | #92 | ||
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He would have simply been looking to find that extra pace. |
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28 Oct 2019, 03:49 (Ref:3937255) | #93 | |
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Parity changes are only ever made to help holden teams so Ford supporters shouldn't hold their breath waiting for any relief.
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28 Oct 2019, 05:37 (Ref:3937262) | #94 | ||
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He was in qualifying trim, he wasn't looking for race pace, and what you said does not align with his own description of what happened. |
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28 Oct 2019, 05:58 (Ref:3937263) | #95 | ||
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That can be interpreted however you want, but it sounds like he wanted to be at the front, presumably given the faster pace 888 had on him in the prior race. And 888's faster race pace is really what the topic is currently about. |
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28 Oct 2019, 06:34 (Ref:3937264) | #96 | ||
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Thought the pace of 17 was on par with 97 and 888 - but with aero as it is now, and turn 4 being the only place to pass at GC, you have an uphill battle if you don't have track position (unless you have much fresher tyres). 17 lost the race on Saturday when CL got Premat off the start. The (new) 17 car will be fastest again come Sandown. |
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28 Oct 2019, 07:03 (Ref:3937268) | #98 | ||
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Mixup brought it up one page back, possibly before taking his meds.
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Whether a new chassis will be able to bridge the gap to 888's current form will remain to be seen, but if you were to compare 888's performance gains against the Mustang's since Auckland, it would be appear to be unlikely. |
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28 Oct 2019, 07:11 (Ref:3937270) | #99 | ||
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I look forward to continued influence from our Daney overlords and for Scott to lose the unloseable.
I also raise a glass to those who after winning 3/4 of the races this year, are still complaining. |
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30 Nov 2019, 05:13 (Ref:3943804) | #100 | ||
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Fair bit of info out in the last week re the 2020 VCAT and Aero plans, along with other equalisation measures:
Reduced Aero Target and method of achieving it VCAT testing process More information on how the control dampers for 2020 will be managed |
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