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Old 16 Nov 2016, 07:21 (Ref:3688432)   #201
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Unveiling should be the 16th LA time? As I'm lead to believe
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Old 16 Nov 2016, 18:33 (Ref:3688605)   #204
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Old 16 Nov 2016, 18:34 (Ref:3688606)   #205
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Porsche has gone down the route of complex steering wheel, filled with buttons and switches and an integrated dash display.

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Old 16 Nov 2016, 18:45 (Ref:3688608)   #206
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I don't know about GTE cars, but some GT3 cars have such a steering wheel, like the McLaren 650. I think that the current Audi R8 LMS has a simplified version of the integrated dashboard/wheel.

And imagine that the Audi R10, when it came out about 10 years ago, was one of the first LMP cars to have such a feature that went beyond shift lights and a primitive digital readout, or a separate wheel and electronic LCD dashboard display.

EDIT: the R8 has a separate Bosch screen and steering wheel like the LMP900/LMP1 car it was named after, but the Porsche wheel does look like it has the R8 LMS' Bosch screen shoehorned into the wheel.
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I just don't like the look of it.
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So much nicer livery.....

Hopefully, as an NA, it will sound better than the Ferrari and Ford too.
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Yep, livery is improved somewhat.
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Old 16 Nov 2016, 19:08 (Ref:3688624)   #211
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My apologies, but I'm just not convinced. Porsche will have to spend the season hoping that the regulators have not made a mistake in their calculations, or they will be in for a real stomping from the Turbo guys.
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GTE is dead, another nail in the coffin.
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My apologies, but I'm just not convinced. Porsche will have to spend the season hoping that the regulators have not made a mistake in their calculations, or they will be in for a real stomping from the Turbo guys.
Without being too cynical about it, you & I don't have to be convinced. All the FIA/ACO need to see is the Porsche not doing well in the run up to Le Mans (however that comes about), and motorrealpolitik does the rest.

These are the times we live in, where short-shifting and coasting down the Kemmel straight is arguably just as important as the decision on whether or not to use a turbocharged engine.
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My apologies, but I'm just not convinced. Porsche will have to spend the season hoping that the regulators have not made a mistake in their calculations, or they will be in for a real stomping from the Turbo guys.
The Vipers (and then the Corvettes) with normally aspirated engines used to beat the turbocharged 911 GT2s.
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Old 16 Nov 2016, 21:32 (Ref:3688684)   #216
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No waivers required to relocate the engine...
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My apologies, but I'm just not convinced. Porsche will have to spend the season hoping that the regulators have not made a mistake in their calculations, or they will be in for a real stomping from the Turbo guys.
Other than a TERRIBLE BOP, and extremely slippery GT, where have the turbos run away from the field? In fact at the track where turbos where supposed to reign supreme at altitude the Vantage ran away and hid from everything in the field. Seems to be a huge over-reaction to run at LM with a car seemingly even Porsche admitted was a terrible duct-taped '16 911.

The more important question is how a flipped engine can go through approval without any waivers? Would assume engine orientation was covered in the regs, I think I have read it in a few regs but haven't seen current GTE. More out of curiosity than thinking it should be illegal, if they found a way to stick a giant diffuser under the car within the regs, go for it and kudos for their thinking and planning
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They'll have that real time atmospheric pressure bop, so that may come in handy for the NA cars. I'm taking a wait and see approach to the car. It sure looks good though.
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My apologies, but I'm just not convinced. Porsche will have to spend the season hoping that the regulators have not made a mistake in their calculations, or they will be in for a real stomping from the Turbo guys.
My sentiments as well. Am afraid Porsche will end up spending a lot of time arguing for BOP - all season long. Hope I'm wrong.
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In fact at the track where turbos where supposed to reign supreme at altitude the Vantage ran away and hid from everything in the field.
That's a trick where on paper there was no BoP change to the turbo cars because it was phrased as adjusting boost for altitude, but realistically the boost setting given at that race was much less advantageous.
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The Vipers (and then the Corvettes) with normally aspirated engines used to beat the turbocharged 911 GT2s.
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My sentiments as well. Am afraid Porsche will end up spending a lot of time arguing for BOP - all season long. Hope I'm wrong.
From a racing perspective I just dont get it. Why place your performance envelop at the mercy of others. They had a chance to come up with something really powerful that could be dialed back (by regulators) and have plenty in the tank to spare (see Ferrari and Ford). They could have developed a platform that was specifically mid-engine, rather than adapting a platform that was designed to be rear-engine. I know some will immediately shout COST! Well strong rumors have it that the mid-engined "960" will come in 2020 so developing a proper platform would not be out of the realm of possibility as they are going to have to do it anyway.
I hope that this is just an interim car until the 960 appears. I remain very dubious over this "solution", but I have been wrong more times than I care to remember, and I sincerely hope this is one more time.
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For the 911 RSR, we deliberately focused on a particularly modern and light normally-aspirated engine, as this gave our engineers immense latitude in developing the vehicle.

Apart from that, in principle, the LM-GTE regulations stipulate the absolute equality of various drive concepts, as the torque characteristics of turbo and normally aspirated engines are aligned.
I think the engine is not really much of a concern for them. Seems they're pretty confident with it. I say give it time.
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