Gen 3 Rules Are Coming...

**GTRMagic** · 17 Mar 2018, 05:16 (Ref:3808462)

Razor · 17 Mar 2018, 05:22 (Ref:3808463)

"Evolution rather than revolution"

They said that about the Car Of The Future/Next Generation/Car Of The Today platform
They also said that about the Gen2 platform
They now say the same thing about Gen3

Can we please get a new record and DJ?

Matt K · 17 Mar 2018, 14:53 (Ref:3808553)

It's funny that they're talking about Gen3 as Gen2 almost didn't happen. The first truly Gen2 car will be ZB with V6 TT under the bonnet.

Mixer · 18 Mar 2018, 02:36 (Ref:3808758)

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“Triple Eight and General Motors are obviously investigating the V6 twin-turbo, and maybe there is something we could look at from hybridising our existing drivetrain.

Really?

Hybrid technology in racing is 100% only to promote manufacturers greenness, I can only see this putting costs up for no impact on the show.

Umai Naa · 18 Mar 2018, 05:56 (Ref:3808789)

I don't believe he was referring to what we call hybrid energy vehicles.

More or less the way in which they're asperated.

MCWB · 18 Mar 2018, 06:19 (Ref:3808794)

He was talking in the biological sense.

Mixer · 18 Mar 2018, 08:05 (Ref:3808807)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

I don't believe he was referring to what we call hybrid energy vehicles. More or less the way in which they're asperated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCWB

He was talking in the biological sense.

I believe you are both wrong:

Quote:

It is a view echoed by Shell V-Power Racing managing director Ryan Story although he feels there is always room for improvement and the ability to embrace new technology.

The Penske run team operates without a manufacturer alliance, and while it continues to seek a partner, Story reckons the category can survive without true manufacturer teams.

“I think there are things to optimise the rule set that we are under now and there are other technologies that we should look to embrace in the future,” Story told Speedcafe.com.

“Triple Eight and General Motors are obviously investigating the V6 twin-turbo, and maybe there is something we could look at from hybridising our existing drivetrain.

“There are a number of technologies we can look to incorporate if we are thinking more about market relevance without jeopardising the strength of our existing platform.

Backagain · 18 Mar 2018, 08:30 (Ref:3808813)

Something to look forward to, going from roaring V8's to the tyre squeal of hybrids. Not to mention short races or 30 minute pitstops to recharge batteries, just saying.

ForumNick · 18 Mar 2018, 08:43 (Ref:3808816)

NFI !

Umai Naa · 18 Mar 2018, 08:55 (Ref:3808820)

Ok, so the word hybrid only refers to EV. Got it.

Matt K · 18 Mar 2018, 16:31 (Ref:3808899)

Unfortunately, electric vehicles is the way of car industry in not a distant future. I can't see Supercars surviving relying on a few year old V8 Falcons and 20 V6 Holdens. I think it's time for bigger changes if Supercars is going to survive.

Or maybe we will have SuperHolden Cup, a perfect series for Dane, Dutton and all these arrogant guys wanting to boost their egos.

Casper · 21 Mar 2018, 02:21 (Ref:3809529)

I want to see what happens when someone wants to run a different motor to everyone else.

Mixer · 21 Mar 2018, 02:50 (Ref:3809532)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

Or maybe we will have SuperHolden Cup, a perfect series for Dane, Dutton and all these arrogant guys wanting to boost their egos.

Gotta love how the guys who have redefined what success means in Supercars are perceived as arrogant. Arrogant means you think you are that good but you are not.

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Umai Naa · 21 Mar 2018, 03:08 (Ref:3809534)

I think they've earned the right to be a touch arrogant.

Backagain · 21 Mar 2018, 07:05 (Ref:3809541)

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Originally Posted by Casper

I want to see what happens when someone wants to run a different motor to everyone else.

You'd want to use a dc motor with 100% torque at 0 RPM, then to limit max power you'd install the mother of all rheostats for easy parity power adjustment at the twist of a dial.

V8 Fireworks · 21 Mar 2018, 12:46 (Ref:3809605)

Is there a way Gen 3 can make the cars more like these? The turbo fours and sixes are definitely a good start at least. The modern "Supercars" are intolerably bland for supposed "touring cars".

chavez · 21 Mar 2018, 23:19 (Ref:3809750)

Group A without the 500 evolution models could work.

Mixer · 22 Mar 2018, 00:55 (Ref:3809762)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Is there a way Gen 3 can make the cars more like these? The turbo fours and sixes are definitely a good start at least. The modern "Supercars" are intolerably bland for supposed "touring cars".

I was gonna say put on some rose-tinted glasses but you clearly already have them on.

rich07 · 22 Mar 2018, 01:28 (Ref:3809769)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Is there a way Gen 3 can make the cars more like these? The turbo fours and sixes are definitely a good start at least. The modern "Supercars" are intolerably bland for supposed "touring cars".

Bland? As much as I disagree with a lot of things to do with the category these days I cannot say they are bland or boring for that. They could shoot a bit more flame but blame the fuel for that. Compared to other touring cars around (even the bewinged DTM racers) they are lot more exciting as a racecar to watch and listen to.

FormulaFox · 22 Mar 2018, 02:28 (Ref:3809773)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Is there a way Gen 3 can make the cars more like these? The turbo fours and sixes are definitely a good start at least. The modern "Supercars" are intolerably bland for supposed "touring cars".

You poor souls don't know how good you really have it down there... Up here we'd KILL for a touring car series as exciting as Supercars is.

Gaz170 · 25 Mar 2018, 08:14 (Ref:3810601)

Beginning to doubt the point of having Gen 3 regulations when it is highly likely it will become a one make series after Nissan pull the plug and the Ford's become obsolete and fade away without a replacement. Holden must be wondering what is the value of continuing funding what is becoming the Commodore Cup.

As much as I like the V8's, with only 1 manufacturer supporting the series, it's days are numbered.

FormulaFox · 25 Mar 2018, 10:58 (Ref:3810633)

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Originally Posted by Gaz170

Beginning to doubt the point of having Gen 3 regulations when it is highly likely it will become a one make series after Nissan pull the plug and the Ford's become obsolete and fade away without a replacement. Holden must be wondering what is the value of continuing funding what is becoming the Commodore Cup.

As much as I like the V8's, with only 1 manufacturer supporting the series, it's days are numbered.

Weren't the modernized rules supposed to make it possible for individual teams to skin the car however they want in case of manufacturer withdrawal? (kinda like our Trans Am series - no manufacturer support at all, but five different models from three manufacturers still race)

Or was that aim abandoned at some point?

Matt K · 26 Mar 2018, 16:13 (Ref:3810978)

I think that V8 fans should start thinking a little bit outside the box and realize that Supercars can still be a great championship with different engines. I know, V8s are incredible with its sound and legacy and all that stuff but not in a distant future only electric cars will be produced.

**FIRE** · 26 Mar 2018, 18:46 (Ref:3811046)

Open engine formula combined with spec engine and also teams building competative cars without factory support works in BTCC. Why couldn't this work in SC?

Tourer · 26 Mar 2018, 20:54 (Ref:3811084)

Zak Brown did an interview with Foges for Auto Fiction: Zak's view of the Supercar future
Some big calls for the future being considered this year, no doubt about it.

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