[BTCC] BTCC 2023 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[Andrew Abbott]

The official release describes it as a "Toyota-derived engine, tuned to BTCC-competition spec by Neil Brown Engineering".

Toyota-derived.

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by thetool

It makes next to no difference financially. The only advantage is that sometimes it's difficult to get companies to pay up right at the end of a financial year, and then cash flow becomes a bit easier April onwards.

So the teams charge exactly the same for a 10 round season as for a 12 round season? I find that hard to believe.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Same person also said Dynamics had been offered a two car supported deal for two cars in TCR UK - Two cars for free, but raise the operating costs through the drivers
wich would have been a pair of Cupras, with the deal being canned a couple of days before an announcement was due.

Stewart Lines would be desperate to get a top BTCC team to defect to TCR UK, so I suspect there may be more than a little truth in what you heard.

[BtccLee]

24 entries confirmed, that is a very competitive grid this season. Awesome to see teams launching their own engine programmes as well.

Butcher will be a contender for the title with that combination for sure.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

So the teams charge exactly the same for a 10 round season as for a 12 round season? I find that hard to believe.

That wasn't what you posted initially. You were suggesting that a more compressed calendar would be cheaper than if the rounds were spread out more. Obviously the more rounds there are, the higher the total cost for the season.

[antnee]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

24 entries confirmed, that is a very competitive grid this season. Awesome to see teams launching their own engine programmes as well.

Butcher will be a contender for the title with that combination for sure.

While I agree that its good to see the variety of engine options, isn't this also becoming a failing of the 'TOCA' engine? I was under the impression that the TOCA engine exists in order to give independent teams a fair shot at winning without needing the expense of developing an engine too. As it stands, I think only Hard, BTC/One and PMR are the only ones running the TOCA engine this season

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Will be updated to 'CarStore Power Maxed Racing'

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by rdjones

So it’s Butcher, Gamble and Ricky Collard (didn’t he retire from racing at the end of last year…?????) at Speedworks this season

https://www.btcc.net/2023/03/29/toyo...-btcc-line-up/


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Classic case of posting the link but not reading the story.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The team name is Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 - no TradePriceCars.com

[Trebor902]

Originally Posted by JDMROB

I thought the same….

Don’t know the loopholes but are they using the 2.0 turbo from the Supra? Which is actually a b48 BMW engine the same as WSR use in the 3 series. Also in the Mini JCWs.

Didn't even realise the supra came as a 2.0 turbo thought it was straight 6 only. Kind of makes sense as would be the same engine the wsr bmws are running too

[billy bleach]

Massive thumbs down for MSport / TOCA unit

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The team name is Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 - no TradePriceCars.com

Noted - will update at next juncture. Do you know when they plan on revealing the team name for 2023? On 1 Mar, a press release stated 'The official team name for the 2023 BTCC programme will be revealed in due course, along with the liveries for the remaining two cars' I may have missed it being published elsewhere, nothing has cropped up on the official btcc channels yet....

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Noted - will update at next juncture. Do you know when they plan on revealing the team name for 2023? On 1 Mar, a press release stated 'The official team name for the 2023 BTCC programme will be revealed in due course, along with the liveries for the remaining two cars' I may have missed it being published elsewhere, nothing has cropped up on the official btcc channels yet....

It was revealed in the story about Pearson's livery

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It was revealed in the story about Pearson's livery

Sorry to be a pain, but do you have a link please? - google takes me to:

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2023...ebut-campaign/

but I can't find mention of the team name in the article

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Sorry to be a pain, but do you have a link please? - google takes me to:

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2023...ebut-campaign/

but I can't find mention of the team name in the article

https://www.excelr8motorsport.com/bristol-street-motors-with-excelr8-reveals-macklin-motors-backed-hyundai/

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

https://www.excelr8motorsport.com/bristol-street-motors-with-excelr8-reveals-macklin-motors-backed-hyundai/

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by antnee

While I agree that its good to see the variety of engine options, isn't this also becoming a failing of the 'TOCA' engine? I was under the impression that the TOCA engine exists in order to give independent teams a fair shot at winning without needing the expense of developing an engine too. As it stands, I think only Hard, BTC/One and PMR are the only ones running the TOCA engine this season

i disagree

its a great endorsement of the engine regulations that more teams can do their own engines cost effectively without breaking the bank

the toca engine is only the fall back position for teams that cant

[S griffin]

So we finally have one more team confirm it's drivers. Big surprise that Collard has reversed his decision. No surprise Butcher is back and good to see Gamble given another chance

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Except its not a Toyota motor - its a BMW unit from the Supra. The Samsung as WSR cars. Toyota could be lightning fast

Proven Toyota derived engine is the clue. You're spot on I think.

[coffinpilot]

Have BTC/One tested yet?
Would it be possible that they are going with the engines that Dynamics used if Dynamics pulled out?
Would that be better for Cook. If I'm wrong correct me, but didn't he kind of say the engine was the reason for the drop off in form last year?

[mphplastering]

Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Have BTC/One tested yet?
Would it be possible that they are going with the engines that Dynamics used if Dynamics pulled out?
Would that be better for Cook. If I'm wrong correct me, but didn't he kind of say the engine was the reason for the drop off in form last year?

From what I've heard from cooks mechanic after races when walking around the pits. He said btcracing boost had been lowered and then then said pegging us back

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by mphplastering

From what I've heard from cooks mechanic after races when walking around the pits. He said btcracing boost had been lowered and then then said pegging us back

If that were the case, then the Toyotas, Infinitis, Cupras and Vauxhalls were also pegged back.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

If that were the case, then the Toyotas, Infinitis, Cupras and Vauxhalls were also pegged back.

I'm sure this has been covered many times before. That's very naive.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by peebee2

I'm sure this has been covered many times before. That's very naive.

its not naive at all

they dont peg back individual cars or teams that are using the exact same engines as others

all cars that use the same engine have the same boost

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

its not naive at all

they dont peg back individual cars or teams that are using the exact same engines as others

all cars that use the same engine have the same boost

Yes "of course..."