AFC- 911's tracks

[AFC-911]

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I made any new tracks since I've been on the road the past 6 months.

Anyway, here are my 3 newest tracks (all made in the past few weeks).

Compass Raceway - not yet measured. I made this to get used to SketchUp again.







Vitesse Circuit
-unmeasured.
-Front Straight is 1.42 miles.
-Anti-clockwise









Carrera Circuit
-6.23 miles
-Clockwise
-Front straight is .85 miles long. The long straight after Turn 1 is .987 miles.





View from Turn 1

[ECW Dan Selby]

Compass - What direction is this going in?

Vitesse - I can't help but feel the first section is a little too 'one or the other'. It's a cool track with a few adjustments (in my opinion). T1 and 2 would really benefit from being loosened up a bit. Failing that, just loosening T2 would definitely help. Apart from that, the rest of the lap looks alot of fun, actually. Nice amount of quick/medium speed corners.

Carrera - The chicane after T3 seems a bit pointless. I'd either loosen it up or rid of it completely, and stick a large run off going in to the next corner alá T8 at Turkey or Pouhon. The whole last sector looks completely crazy, which is a thumbs up.

Selby

[bio]

Yep, track directions would be welcome. At the Compass circuit, for example, the left side gravel trap seems to indicate it's clockwise, whilst the leftmost gravel trap seems anti.

Also, without track length, it's hard to say anything. Compass seems to lack good overtaking points - or it's very long.

The other two I like much better, Vitesse being my personal favourite.

I also like the fact that you seem to have made a deliberate attempt to balance speed and technicality, fast and technical sectors. And you succeeded

bio

[dyewat808]

Lovely graphics, and nice tracks too. I think either Carrera or Vitesse is my favourite

I can only say two things really - I think there are a few too many esses, and bits of the track could be smoothed out a little. The other thing is the kerbs are a little too big in terms of scale, though I appreciate you have to do this to be able to see them here.

Otherwise, fantastic! Great presentation, and great scenery too. They look like real race tracks, which for me is always a big plus!

[LuiggiSpeed]

I like your presentation!!! it's very businesslike , pretty much like a brochure for promo!

The tracks remind me of my own early tracks somehow, I like them all.

[AFC-911]

Thank you all for the compliments! I really tried to make them all have a bit of a different flavor.

I'm learning new things every time I make new designs, so I only hope to get better from here.

[LuiggiSpeed]

I have one critique about the VItesse circuit, and it's a safety issue with that long straight bending to the right at probably the fastest speed attainable at the circuit and pointing straight at the grandstands with absolutely no run off....scenario for an ugly catastrophe..

[bio]

Luiggi,
the Vitesse one is anti.

bio

[LuiggiSpeed]

Originally Posted by bio

Luiggi,
the Vitesse one is anti.

bio

ups....my bad!

[bio]

Well, not necessarily, the issue is there for some extent at T2 (the bottom left corner)...

bio

[AFC-911]

Originally Posted by bio

Well, not necessarily, the issue is there for some extent at T2 (the bottom left corner)...

Yeah, I noticed that too. I still make revisions to these (with the exception of Carrera). I'll have to remedy that, as well as provide some measurements.

Anyway, I made some revisions to Compass Raceway. I changed the penultimate corner back to the way I originally intended.

Here are the specs:

Compass Raceway (long) - 3.9 miles - Clockwise
Compass Short - 3.2 miles





I also made a new one. It's my first try at doing multiple variations.

Circuit de Mistral
-Clockwise
-South Loop is the main course with a front straight of .736 miles
-North Loop's straight is .703 miles & descends 50 feet after the kink.
-South Loop is flat, while the North Loop has a slightly higher elevation.
-Bottom carousel is banked.

Full GP course




South Loop extension




North & South Loops

[bio]

This last one (any layout of it) would, IMHO, be a great venue for bike races. Luiggi?

bio

[LuiggiSpeed]

Originally Posted by bio

This last one (any layout of it) would, IMHO, be a great venue for bike races. Luiggi?

bio

Yes absolutly!THe layout seems fun and challenging, but 6 miles and change is a mongo mega long lap, meaning the straights might be a mile long and most of the turns 5th gear flat out, I don't think is practical for many reasons, so I would re-scale it to half and that would make it more real proposition with more competitive, lower speed turns or else this would be an engine circuit rather than a riders circuit. You know me , you know I love racer's circuits rather than engine circuits.

[Purist]

Luiggi, I think the scale would be just fine for bikes. You simply either choose to run the North Loop OR the South Loop, but NOT the combined circuit. Then, you'll have one good straight on either circuit, but the track won't be such an engine breaker or a total power circuit. Each separate track looks to be about 3.5 miles long, which is a bit long for bikes, perhaps, but not outlandishly so.

[LuiggiSpeed]

Still pretty big IMHO. Were looking at mile long straights, it can be rescaled and nobody would even notice.

[Tathrim]

Originally Posted by LuiggiSpeed

Still pretty big IMHO. Were looking at mile long straights, it can be rescaled and nobody would even notice.

Aragon? that's a mile, isn't it, even with the 'Bus Stop'?

[AFC-911]

Luiggi,

I actually don't start out with a set length in mind. I usually start out with a front straight of 800 meters or longer, then go from there.

For the Mistral circuit, I started with a front straight of ~ 1135 m. Still less than a mile long. Then I just use the SU measuring tape when I finish & then convert the numbers.

I never set out to make the North Loop or the extension...It just sort of happened!

Anyway, I actually love long tracks (N-ring, Spa & the 2 RAs). But then again, I'm not an expert.

PS - I made a short one just for you...

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Cough... [muffled voice]reverse direction[/muffled voice] cough splutter cough

with T4/T3 smothed out giving a run from T6 down to T2 as final overtaking place.

[AFC-911]

Noted. Here's the update:



Thanks! I'm pretty happy with Islero, Mistral & Carrera...Think I'm going to start a new one.

PS - I guess my thread title is no longer accurate!

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

PS - I guess my thread title is no longer accurate!

I hope the new one fits better.

SBF (Mod)

[bio]

Now all it needs is a few more gravel pits (T's 3, 5, 8, 10, 13) and it's all go

bio

[LuiggiSpeed]

You know what?

I like that little track of yours! It makes lots of sense, and 2.5 miles is still pretty good track. That would be my favorite of this post.

[Purist]

Tathrim, with the chicane in place, the second, and longer, portion of the back stretch at Aragon is 960m, but I'm not sure if that's for the MotoGP version of the circuit, or for the F1 version, which uses the hairpin a bit further down.

Luiggi, some amount of scaling could be done on that earlier track with the two loops, but certainly scaling it down by half would make it pointless for any automobile with more than, say, 200hp. Bikes don't have to push nearly as much air out of the way as cars do, as I'm sure you know, and so 200hp goes VASTLY farther to getting a bike up to real speed than it will for a car. And a good majority of fairly current sedans on the road (not even performance cars) have 150hp or more.

[AFC-911]

Thanks for renaming my thread!

Anyway, started this one last night & just now finished it.

It measures 2.2 miles.

[bio]

The pitlane seems awfully short - otherwise it just seems great!

bio