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Old 17 Jun 2014, 20:17 (Ref:3423215)   #651
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So you think Ferrari would be happy to fly their star driver across the globe to jump into a GT car just days after a grand prix?

I think Webber's decision shows that there is interest.
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 20:21 (Ref:3423218)   #652
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So you think Ferrari would be happy to fly their star driver across the globe to jump into a GT car just days after a grand prix?

I think Webber's decision shows that there is interest.
Webber is 37, and his days in a top F1 team were over for good, after his retirment hakkinen ran in DTM but this doesn't mean that F1 drivers are interested to run in DTM. Anyway Alonso was already there, he could spend 3-4 days at le mans if this was his will.
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 20:28 (Ref:3423224)   #653
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He was there for race day, not earlier, I still doubt Ferrari would let him race at Le Mans even in their own (sort of) car. If they had proper factory effort maybe it could be different, but for the moment their top drivers are in F1 and you're completely speculating on the driver's state of mind.
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Old 18 Jun 2014, 12:18 (Ref:3423401)   #654
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This may not be completely dead yet. Interesting comments from Alonso, saying he and di Montezemolo have talked about a Ferrari LMP1, and also a statement from Ferrari saying they could do both F1 and Le Mans.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/205709/...ans-entry.html

I guess it looks pretty likely to happen at some point, we just don't know when.
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Old 18 Jun 2014, 13:34 (Ref:3423428)   #655
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I guess it looks Not Impossible at This point ... I don't see where "likely to happen" is supported by the available information.

I'd love to see Ferrari back in sports cars, but I will wait until there is something real to go on before I start hoping ...

The fact that I can take some statement made by some Ferrari person and pick out the letters to spell "Ferrari WEC" only means I have too much time on my hands.

Montezemolo ... why is that name familiar? Oh, yeah ... he's the guy who got booted from the floundering Ferrari F1 program. Can't think of a better source.
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Old 18 Jun 2014, 13:47 (Ref:3423433)   #656
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Montezemolo ... why is that name familiar? Oh, yeah ... he's the guy who got booted from the floundering Ferrari F1 program. Can't think of a better source.
Is he? Montezemolo is the top boss at Ferrari. Are you sure you're not thinking of Domenicali?
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Old 18 Jun 2014, 17:17 (Ref:3423498)   #657
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You know, doing both F1 and WEC (plus Le Mans) would be possible if the cost cap is established in the former. Then again, Ferrari are the ones at fault for making the costs go up!
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Old 18 Jun 2014, 17:33 (Ref:3423502)   #658
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"Is he? Montezemolo is the top boss at Ferrari. Are you sure you're not thinking of Domenicali?"

Of course I am not wrong. I am never wrong.

Like I said, Stefano Domenicali got booted fro Ferrari's F1 program by Luca d1 Montezemolo.

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"Is he? Montezemolo is the top boss at Ferrari. Are you sure you're not thinking of Domenicali?"

Of course I am not wrong. I am never wrong.

Like I said, Stefano Domenicali got booted fro Ferrari's F1 program by Luca d1 Montezemolo.

Montezemolo is ferrari spa chairman, you can see him as "top boss" but for real is just a puppet in the hands of the FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne, the one who makes critical decisions. It's up to Marchionne decide if one day ferrari will field officially or not an lmp1.
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Old 19 Jun 2014, 10:43 (Ref:3423728)   #660
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Montezemolo is ferrari spa chairman, you can see him as "top boss" but for real is just a puppet in the hands of the FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne, the one who makes critical decisions. It's up to Marchionne decide if one day ferrari will field officially or not an lmp1.
Sergio is the CEO but LDM is like the 'face' of Ferrari. His decisions are made over the racing activities and such, it's not entirely Sergio's decision though.
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Sergio is the CEO but LDM is like the 'face' of Ferrari. His decisions are made over the racing activities and such, it's not entirely Sergio's decision though.
Marchionne is the one who decided to give a significative cut to the ferrari F1 program budget, so marchionne decisions are more important than montezemolo decisions. Also about racing activities.
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Old 19 Jun 2014, 12:38 (Ref:3423781)   #662
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Regardless of who ultimately makes the decision, or who lobbies who else to get the decision made ... there seems to be no basis in fact to believe that said decision has been or will be made anytime soon.

It makes great PR for Ferrari, and also Ferrari always lieks to mess with FIA to get breaks in F1 (and it needs them, lately) and sure Fernando Alonso was at Le Mans and all that ... and sure, if you take every Ferrari official's quote printed in every Italian paper about WEC you can pull out the letters to spell out "Ferrari in LMP1" but as far as actual factual ... Zero.

Love to see them on the grid (and they damn well better paint the cars red) or even as a customer program but chasing fantasies isn't very satisfying. I will wait until there is some sane reason to believe the company is moving that way.
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Old 19 Jun 2014, 19:26 (Ref:3423950)   #663
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This doesn't mean crap but not sure where else to post, Raikkonen:

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"The Webber Effect"? Maybe he has chatted with Alonso.

Lets not forget though that he tested 908.
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Old 19 Jun 2014, 19:32 (Ref:3423955)   #664
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RLM said Fernando Alonso made the exact same statement. Alonso was even more direct saying 100% he would be at Le Mans one year.
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This doesn't meany crap but not sure where else to post, Raikkonen:


"The Webber Effect"?

Lets not forget though that he tested 908.
I recall that. He claimed the steering was sh--. But Kimi is particular about the feel of power steering.
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Old 19 Jun 2014, 19:34 (Ref:3423957)   #666
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Let's not even get started on Kimi and his steering issues...Where's Jarno Trulli when you need him
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As well as rallying, he’s tried NASCAR this year and Peugeot’s 908 Le Mans racer, which, as he explains, was like driving a high-powered goldfish bowl. “The Le Mans car was interesting but, to be honest, the steering was quite **** and the widescreen was really strange – it sort of distort the view… maybe because it’s very round,” says Kimi. “I can’t imagine what it’s like with oil and mess on it after you’ve been racing for a long time. But I enjoyed the experience and the car felt good, even though I’m told that it had less power compared to previous years. I’ hadn’t really driven on a circuit for ages apart from the NASCAR race, but that was on an oval, so it was completely different.”
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Quesnel, who was in charge of both marques, always denied that there was anything more to the test, but insiders insist that an outing at the Le Mans 24 Hours was discussed at some point. And quite rightly so after Raikkonen’s performance during his short try-out at Motorland Aragon.

“Kimi was quick straight out of the box,” says one of Peugeot’s retinue of drivers. “He got in the car and matched the quickest time of the test inside four laps.

“He arrived late, I think, didn’t make any fuss and didn’t bother too much about the seating position, and bang, he did the time. He did around 25 laps and then went home.”

Raikkonen apparently liked the car, apart from its powersteering, but any chance of a race outing as good as disappeared three months later when it was announced he’d be returning to F1 with Lotus.
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"Matched the quickest in the test inside 4 laps"... He would have been serious fast if he was in the race.
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I should rephrase. I didn't mean Alonso said those exact words. I meant he said something very similar.
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This story has more to it...

According to autosprint, Domenicalli sought a budget for a Le Mans car http://twitter.com/matlemans/status/481538863752835072
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This story has more to it...

According to autosprint, Domenicalli sought a budget for a Le Mans car http://twitter.com/matlemans/status/481538863752835072
This has been known for some time, though, I think this is the first "public" confirmation.
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Couple more concept drawings here. I think the BHF needs to be more red and with a nice big Scuderia Ferrari shield. Good Lord, though, that thing looks viscious. Would be the best looking LMP1.
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With Mclaren moving over to Honda powerplants in F1, it frees up a Mercedes engine supply for a new team next year. I think if Ferrari were to win the bid for the coveted Mercedes engine, it could free up enough resources to do a Le Mans prototype in 2016.
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