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Old 2 Mar 2018, 02:03 (Ref:3805093)   #271
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Doesn't matter how many logo's or stickers you put on a pig...its still a pig.
When F1 put on decent racing thier target market will watch it.
But a percentage of that target market that will stop watching because F1 will be behind a pay wall.
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But a percentage of that target market that will stop watching because F1 will be behind a pay wall.
Well its hard to see the pig if its hiding behind a wall..
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Old 2 Mar 2018, 02:16 (Ref:3805095)   #273
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Doesn't matter how many logo's or stickers you put on a pig...its still a pig.
When F1 put on decent racing thier target market will watch it.



Yup, they need to remember at the end of the day it is a sport, and the sport is racing.


Well its hard to see the pig if its hiding behind a wall.. Armco

So you'd better take your audience with you! Spot the mistake.
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Old 2 Mar 2018, 07:48 (Ref:3805144)   #274
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F1 is a brand image. And that's why you won't see big tech companies in as title sponsors. Google, Facebook and Microsoft don't need to brand themselves with racing cars. And other huge companies such as Rackspace don't care about branding to the public - they're selling to other massive tech companies.

If tech companies were going to come to F1 as title sponsors, they'd already be here. That ship has sailed.
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Old 2 Mar 2018, 08:41 (Ref:3805153)   #275
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F1 is a brand image. And that's why you won't see big tech companies in as title sponsors. Google, Facebook and Microsoft don't need to brand themselves with racing cars. And other huge companies such as Rackspace don't care about branding to the public - they're selling to other massive tech companies.

If tech companies were going to come to F1 as title sponsors, they'd already be here. That ship has sailed.
F1's major appeal was introducing consumers to, and injecting glamour into high volume mass market items, now most of the risk has gone and the wide marketing reach is being slaughtered by putting the sport behind a paywall.

Seems like a recipe for a disaster.
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Old 2 Mar 2018, 13:37 (Ref:3805238)   #276
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Seems like a recipe for a disaster.
only if youíre still stuck with the bernie vision for where f1ís sponsor money and publicity should come from. the way money flows into and around the sport is changing.
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I find this interesting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43487528

I often stuck up for sky citing the example of rugby. They actually put games on telly, it was the only way to watch club games realistically. Obviously this is in the days FTA was only four or five channels. They built it up and when there was a base to launch a new European Cup they pushed that too. It became big. BT has nicked a lot of it. Now it’s on FTA! That’s competition.

They’ve gone the opposite way to F1 in some ways.

Although if you want to watch the second tier English rugby and a lot of foreign club games sky still support it.

And our Simon started on rugby.
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Old 21 Mar 2018, 19:44 (Ref:3809708)   #278
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Team sports have multiple matches per weekend, so they can put some on air, some on basic cable, some on premium, and some online.

In individual sports, there's only one event per weekend, so you can't really do that.
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True. If I had a point, it was more that sky added to the sport and now FTA stole (a bit of) it! The organisers thought it good to give them some coverage, including the final - only one game then!
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According to JAonF1 CCTV the main state run channel in CHina has just signed to show F1 on FTA nationwide.
That's a potentially larger FTA audience than F1 has ever had and in a market for more sales of the high end merchandise F1 relates too than any other.
I think Liberty has it's eye on the prize.
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I find this interesting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43487528

I often stuck up for sky citing the example of rugby. They actually put games on telly, it was the only way to watch club games realistically. Obviously this is in the days FTA was only four or five channels. They built it up and when there was a base to launch a new European Cup they pushed that too. It became big. BT has nicked a lot of it. Now itís on FTA! Thatís competition.

Theyíve gone the opposite way to F1 in some ways.

Although if you want to watch the second tier English rugby and a lot of foreign club games sky still support it.

And our Simon started on rugby.
So, F1 should have oval wheels?
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Old 22 Mar 2018, 17:54 (Ref:3809954)   #282
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I guess of the FIA ask Pirelli they could provide that.
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I'm watching a re-run of qualifying on Fox Sports 3, as live coverage was in the early morning while I was sleeping, and on Fox Premium Action which I decided not to pay for.

Pit reporter Juan Fossaroli said that the TV press was split in 5 groups, and he was paired with other Spanish and French journalists. They had just 3 minutes for all questions in both languages.
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Yup, they need to remember at the end of the day it is a sport, and the sport is racing.


Well its hard to see the pig if its hiding behind a wall.. Armco

So you'd better take your audience with you! Spot the mistake.
You just have to remember one thing, BE only developed F1 for one reason and one reason only and that was as a wealth development tool for him and others he invited in, there was no other reason. To think he did it for any other reason like developing the sport to make it more sporting is naive to say the least. The genie is now out of the bottle so there will be no turning back now.
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Yes I concur. It is no longer a sport, or indeed a spectacle. And Yes, no turning back.
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