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Old 6 Mar 2018, 06:37 (Ref:3806155)   #466
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Why is there such a furore about the position of the current RSR's engine? The BMW M3 GT2 and Corvette C7R are similar to the Porsche but at the other end of the car.
That's the stock engine position for the Corvette and the BMW was never any kind of legal or reasonable to start with. (rather outside of the group just making fun of Porsche for the 911 being rear engined the M3 is just as disliked for being the car that started all this stuff)


Frankly I don't think almost anyone is aware of that particular section of the regulations, although you're right it's certainly in there now. The other one no one seems to be aware of is that the rules are worded such that you could use a stock hybrid assist system, somewhat like the Prius in GT300.
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Old 6 Mar 2018, 07:24 (Ref:3806159)   #467
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Why is there such a furore about the position of the current RSR's engine? The BMW M3 GT2 and Corvette C7R are similar to the Porsche but at the other end of the car.
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From this picture, the only bits of the Corvette's engine in front of the front axle centreline are some pipes/hoses.

The Aston Martin is similar, though pictures are harder to come by.
The M3 GT2 is the reason that Porsche can do this. One of the many waivers BMW applied for at the time was to move the engine well back in the chassis, almost into the cockpit.
That waiver eventually made its way into the regulations proper. The end result is that there is no such thing as a mid-engined car in the GTE regulations. The engine is either in front of or behind the cockpit. So there are front-engined (Vantage, M8, C7) and rear-engined (911, 488, GT) cars. The engine can then be moved fore or aft within that restriction. Chevrolet could do an Audi Quattro if they wanted to and put the engine between the headlights.
A manufacturer cannot, as Radio Le Mans/IMSA Radio have said, move the engine from in front of the cockpit to behind it.

Had to get that off my chest, it's been a bugbear of mine since the Porsche was announced.
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You're right posting that bmw and corvette (and basically any other FR layout gte/gt3) placed the engine close to the center of the car, but in their road versions the engine bay is already behind the front axle!

While as far I know it simply doesn't exist a road MR "porsche made" 911. Simple.
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Old 6 Mar 2018, 08:35 (Ref:3806179)   #468
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Supra Is designed to GTE but they have no plan currently to enter it in any series... yet


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Old 6 Mar 2018, 09:10 (Ref:3806198)   #469
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Old 6 Mar 2018, 09:17 (Ref:3806201)   #470
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So, no McLaren Senna GTE announcement at Geneva, just the GT-R version.

No confirmed plans to race McLaren Senna GT-R
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Old 6 Mar 2018, 09:44 (Ref:3806208)   #471
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So.... any new gte at all

time to drop lamborghini rumor too. Just too hype fever.
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Old 6 Mar 2018, 11:12 (Ref:3806224)   #472
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This car looks fantastic and the McLaren Senna GTR looks great too.


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Old 6 Mar 2018, 13:13 (Ref:3806249)   #473
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I have to admit the McLaren looks much better in 'race trim'. Also, the Toyota looks a bit outdated already imo, very similar to the outgoing CR-7.
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Old 6 Mar 2018, 22:35 (Ref:3806385)   #474
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The Supra isn't really a proper car, it has a few styling concessions. I imagine the only way you'll potentially see that program go forward is if Class 1 falls apart and Super GT moves to GTE based regulations.
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The Supra isn't really a proper car, it has a few styling concessions. I imagine the only way you'll potentially see that program go forward is if Class 1 falls apart and Super GT moves to GTE based regulations.
I think they're better off using the Lexus LC (maybe LC F if produced). I like the fact that they're bringing back the Supra, but I am not a big fan of this new one.
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More of the Senna GTR here:
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Glickenhaus published renders of the future SCG 004 Race Car on your Facebook page.





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Glickenhaus published renders of the future SCG 004 Race Car on your Facebook page.





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The Glickenhaus SCG 004 will have the GTR Nissan V6-TT engine.

http://m.evomagazine.it/la-glickenha...san-gt-r-62027
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Old 19 Mar 2018, 23:22 (Ref:3809232)   #479
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Is it the GTE, the GT3 or the LMP1? Because Glickenhaus is doing it all!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Is it the GTE, the GT3 or the LMP1? Because Glickenhaus is doing it all!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I have the feeling that the idea of making an LMP1 has already been forgotten.
I suppose that the same SCG 004 will be able to be adapted to GTE and GT3 as it happens with the Ferrari 488.
The SCG 003 had a good performance in the VLN and the N24 fighting against the German factory teams. They achieved the Pole Position in the last N24 and I think that they won some VLN race.
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