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Old 9 Mar 2018, 17:20 (Ref:3807111)   #151
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You could say that, but then it's odd that a setup from a supposedly "slower" car (VF) worked well.
Depends on ability of driver and their style to extract the max from the car
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Old 9 Mar 2018, 22:00 (Ref:3807166)   #152
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Yep, and Lowndes found it " very easy to drive, it's a lot nicer to drive a car you don't have to hustle or manage". http://www.supercars.com/news/champi...easy-to-drive/

Gee, it couldn't possibly be so great for Lowndes and Erebus because the car has a lower and more central centre of gravity due to a lighter bodywork package, therefore making everything better in the handling department with no drawbacks..........

Could it?
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Old 10 Mar 2018, 01:24 (Ref:3807173)   #153
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Ford teams to apply to homologate composite panels.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/03/10...eplace-falcon/

Can't wait to see the status quo remain and for the next excuse.

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Old 10 Mar 2018, 09:13 (Ref:3807200)   #154
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The composite panels were known about, last year when the car first broke cover.

Another instance where Ford teams were caught napping...
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The composite panels were known about, last year when the car first broke cover.

Another instance where Ford teams were caught napping...
From purely a cost perspective, it is hard to make sense of putting a proposal up to put composite panels on FG/X.

888 was spoken of as having spent $1.2m homologating ZB, funded presumably by Holden & friends. Same amount of work required to design Mondeo probably, even if they only run 8 of them not 14.

$1.2m, 8 Fords = $150k per car...

What will a composite FGX roof cost? Or doors? Or rear quarters? Or bonnets? Or boot lids?

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Old 10 Mar 2018, 11:48 (Ref:3807224)   #156
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No say it will cost anything like that just to make composite panels, the shape isn't changing just the material.

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No say it will cost anything like that just to make composite panels, the shape isn't changing just the material.

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And junk the perfectly serviceable existing panelwork...

The article suggests that DJRTP and Tickford are applying to manufacture these independent of each other. Lets make 2 sets of designs, manufacturing equipment & methods, and the real possibility that one will be better than the other...

Mondeo. It’s time.
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Nobody is going to cough up the millions required to do it, just makes no sense. People need to give up on Ford. They are gone and are not coming back.

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Nobody is going to cough up the millions required to do it, just makes no sense. People need to give up on Ford. They are gone and are not coming back.

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Isnt a Mondeo and a Fusion the same car?
Doesn’t Mr Penske run a Fusion in NASCAR...

Surely the design capacity already exists on that body shape, however convoluted it becomes for NASCAR, to do it cheaper than the quoted 888 number?
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This. Do to them as they have done to you.
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Old 20 Mar 2018, 02:50 (Ref:3809257)   #161
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theres a report in the Hearld Sun that the Ford boys are just waiting for a tick off on some new body panels for the AGP meet

can anyone add any comments?
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theres a report in the Hearld Sun that the Ford boys are just waiting for a tick off on some new body panels for the AGP meet

can anyone add any comments?
the article linked but behind paywall)

includes quotes from Tim edwards

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The man leading the Falcon fightback, Tim Edwards from Tickford Racing, admits the Fords are ready to race with updated panels but cannot front that way at the AGP meeting without full approval from Supercars.

“I can’t say we’re running anything until we have approval. We’ve got to step through it,” Edwards says.
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The technical chief at Supercars, Dave Stewart, confirms there has been an application for a Falcon update but will not go into any sort of detail.

“We’ve have an application and we’re working through it. That’s both the Ford and Nissan homologation teams,” he says.
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Old 20 Mar 2018, 03:12 (Ref:3809259)   #163
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So they're already ready to go without much mumbling about significant costs and difficulty to produce which was being drummed into us in this thread.
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What's funny about this is due to the hinge design on the ZB there wasn't actually much benefit over the VF roof unlike the Ford which will see a much larger benefit. Swings and roundabouts.

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So they're already ready to go without much mumbling about significant costs and difficulty to produce which was being drummed into us in this thread.
the teams mentioned significant costs, nothing to do with this thread

and there is no mention of the costs in this article which is still early in process
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