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Old 15 Feb 2018, 21:59 (Ref:3801701)   #46
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I couldn't disagree more. NBC provided the best coverage of Formula 1 we've had in my lifetime - it's not even close, really. What makes you think there will be less commercials?

Goodies and coverage? We don't know if we will even get to see qualifying, much less practice! Sounds like they are working on a paywall service as well. Where is the good news?
I agree. I can't speak to the quality of the Sky team. Nothing against them, but I will have to wait and see to formulate an opinion. I will miss the guys who have been part of US F1 broadcasting for a long time... Hobbs, Matchett and Will Buxton.

But I fully expect there to be commercials and given they will be injecting them into a broadcast that is not designed as such (I assume), it might be tough on viewers given a lack of smooth transitions. The main question will be if there is more or less commercials than NBC.

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Old 15 Feb 2018, 22:11 (Ref:3801702)   #47
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I've tried to delete him from memory but cannot seem to erase the way he would always yell "Abbadabbi" when pronouncing Abu Dhabi
I can still hear him screaming IT'S GOING FROM BAD TO WORSE FOR LEWIS HAMILTON

But his role did result in hilarious little moment @ Le Mans 2010's Eurosport coverage, with Martin Haven ridiculing him on air during the night

Anyway as for SKY team... dulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll and generic
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 22:24 (Ref:3801707)   #48
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But I fully expect there to be commercials and given they will be injecting them into a broadcast that is not designed as such (I assume), it might be tough on viewers given a lack of smooth transitions.
Those of us who have been watching F1 in the UK for *ahem* a few years or more have a finely-tuned ear when it comes to the "pause so the rest of the world's broadcasters who take the BBC/ITV/Sky feed can go to ads now" breath hold technique.

OK, so when it was on ITV they had ads themselves (including the disastrous 2005 San Marino ad break debacle with 3 laps to go), but they also spliced in small pauses for the rest of the world to chuck extra adverts in.

[ Note: for 'ad' and 'advert', read 'commercial' ]

All you'll notice is a change in the voices.
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 01:23 (Ref:3801722)   #49
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Those of us who have been watching F1 in the UK for *ahem* a few years or more have a finely-tuned ear when it comes to the "pause so the rest of the world's broadcasters who take the BBC/ITV/Sky feed can go to ads now" breath hold technique.
Interesting.

So I am curious... Given they do live commentary, what do they do during the period when others "go to commercial?"

Do they just as you say find a quick end to whatever they are saying (we in the US would break away) then they start up talking again for a few minutes until there is is what they think is the expected end of the break, stop talking (we in the US return) and then they pick up talking again? Does the context change during that time? Hopefully upon return they are not finishing up a joke or story in which we get a cryptic punchline with no setup!!!

"And then he said... Because the alligator liked the red hat instead!!! HAHAHAHAHA"



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Old 16 Feb 2018, 02:42 (Ref:3801736)   #50
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Interesting.

So I am curious... Given they do live commentary, what do they do during the period when others "go to commercial?"

Do they just as you say find a quick end to whatever they are saying (we in the US would break away) then they start up talking again for a few minutes until there is is what they think is the expected end of the break, stop talking (we in the US return) and then they pick up talking again? Does the context change during that time? Hopefully upon return they are not finishing up a joke or story in which we get a cryptic punchline with no setup!!!

"And then he said... Because the alligator liked the red hat instead!!! HAHAHAHAHA"



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In Aus to see F1 live nowadays we have to climb the paywall, but for that we get full break free coverage of the Sky broadcast. It all seems pretty seamless with a few pauses as they obviously give a brief halt for those taking a break. Its probably akin to the old days when there would be a pause as Murray passed the shared mic. to James and vice versa.
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 03:42 (Ref:3801746)   #51
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I will just watch our Spanish station with no ad breaks and action from beginning to end ....
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Do they just as you say find a quick end to whatever they are saying (we in the US would break away) then they start up talking again for a few minutes until there is is what they think is the expected end of the break, stop talking (we in the US return) and then they pick up talking again?
Precisely that. Exactly the way RLM do on the world feed for Daytona, PLM and so on.
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As an American, I am extremely happy that this has happened.

sure as hell won't miss NBC, bloody commercial breaks every 6-7 minutes.
No you won't. Be sure that ESPN will do them.
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 19:36 (Ref:3801904)   #54
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Only change will be ESPN might not run the same 8 commercials. Only thing worse than the NBCSports commercials were the FoxSports commercials in IMSA coverage. Then you might get 5 different commercials in 12 hours
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Not saying Legard was good, but I preferred him to James Allen. James wasn't interested in commentating on the Grand Prix or even F1. It was Formula Jenson and the Grand Lewis. He spent more time talking about the similarities between Lewis and Senna based on the type of yellow on their helmets than the actual race. As a radio commentator and pit lane reporter, he was generally ok and unoffensive. In the pits he had a very specific job to do, and he'd go and do it and do it well. When left to his own devices in the commentary box he was embarrassing.

The only person close to Allen was Ant Davidson. His first few times commentating all he wanted to do was pimp himself out and talk about how great he was. Even when Jenson won his first Grand Prix at Hungaroring, Davidson turned that into "I can't believe I was the one who commentated on this". Aye Ant, because that's the achievement today.

Legard was a step up from the absolute nonsense that was the ITV production. He was by no means good, but it at least became professional. Croft raised the bar once again. He has his moments of error or annoyance, but so does every commentator. I'm a HUGE fan of Radio Le Mans/Radio Show Limited/IMSA Radio and even they have their moments that I don't agree with. So when it comes to Croft, I personally take the stance of 'cut him some slack', because he's much better than anything we've had for a good 15 years or so.
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I wonder whether the latest news that Comcast have thrown their hat in the ring to buy Sky will have any impact in the USA?

It certainly muddies the water in Disney's bid to buy Fox including Sky.
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I wonder whether the latest news that Comcast have thrown their hat in the ring to buy Sky will have any impact in the USA?

It certainly muddies the water in Disney's bid to buy Fox including Sky.
I hadn't heard that here in the US but it doesn't surprise me, Comcast wants everyone to forget they are buying everything by using 30 different names. Personally thought they should have been split up years ago and never allowed to own the production and distribution streams, they already own NBC/Universal and tried to buy more before even the orange president said whoa, that might be too far. Somehow few here think it is a problem for them to own the production studio, the distributor and the provider, but then want to fiercely defend net neutrality. Guess TV is different than internet, oh wait that's how many get internet too.
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Comcast should have never been allowed to buy NBC Universal.

Btw, that was during the Obama government.
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I'll miss the NBCSN commentary team, but I'm sure I'll become accustomed to the Sky team.

Something I find odd and distressing is that, so far, ESPN has not aired ANY promotions for its impending F1 coverage. Normally, a network that is about to commence coverage of the F1 world championship would be running numerous ads informing viewers that F1 is coming to ESPN. Instead, nothing!

I'll wager that very few ESPN viewers have the slightest notion that F1 is coming to ESPN. It's as if ESPN wants to keep it a closely guarded secret.

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I'll miss the NBCSN commentary team, but I'm sure I'll become accustomed to the Sky team.

Something I find odd and distressing is that, so far, ESPN has not aired ANY promotions for its impending F1 coverage. Normally, a network that is about to commence coverage of the F1 world championship would be running numerous ads informing viewers that F1 is coming to ESPN. Instead, nothing!

I'll wager that very few ESPN viewers have the slightest notion that F1 is coming to ESPN. It's as if ESPN wants to keep it a closely guarded secret.

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I've noticed this too. I had to search to see if/when it was being telecast. It's been awful quiet.
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