2012 Shannons Nationals Motor Racing Championships

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by alfacors

Round 3 is coming up on May 26-27 at Phillip Island

Featuring

• Sargent Security Australian GT Championship
• Porsche Staff Solutions International GT3 Cup Challenge Australia
• Australian Manufacturers Championship
• Touring Car Masters
• Kumho Tyres Australian V8 Touring Car Series
• Australian Superkart Championship
• Kerrick Sports Sedan Series

Spectator Entry
Saturday - $20 (Concession $15)
Sunday - $30 (Concession $25)
Weekend - $35

That is a really good programme. If i lived in Victoria, I would definately drive down to the island and pay money to see that.

[alfacors]

Amended category list (I accidentally put V8 Touring on originally, and can't edit the post)

Originally Posted by alfacors

Round 3 is coming up on May 26-27 at Phillip Island

Featuring

• Sargent Security Australian GT Championship
• Porsche Staff Solutions International GT3 Cup Challenge Australia
• Australian Manufacturers Championship
• Touring Car Masters
• Australian Superkart Championship
• Kerrick Sports Sedan Series

Spectator Entry
Saturday - $20 (Concession $15)
Sunday - $30 (Concession $25) Group Bookong $25 p/head
Weekend - $35 Group Booking $30 p/head

Entry Lists and Schedules -> http://thenationals.com.au/index.php...phillip-island

[Dasher]

Originally Posted by jd yort

Can someone explain the reason for the decline in Commodore Cup grids in the last couple of years?

Their could be a number of reasons ,


1. Cost of entries, less cars = bigger entry fees,not too many will pay $2000+ just to enter an event and then the cost of Transport, Accommodation , Food,Race Tyres,Race Fuel etc etc on top of that.

2. Disgruntled competitors for any number of reasons.

3. The rumored upgrade to newer model with bigger engines & better components.
(which is what is needed, but competitors were against it because it made their current cars obsolete & valueless with nowhere to sell them to).

4. None or very little communication from category management.

5. Owners & or Drivers had no input into category decisions which affected them directly.

6. Most don't want to or wont travel to interstate rounds & considering 95% of the know cars reside in Victoria, both rounds so far this year have both been interstate.

7. Drivers & Owners moving to other categories, eg. Utes, Carrera Cup, V8 Development Series.

There are about 30+ know cars in existence, just needing an injection of enthusiasm from somebody, so sad to see only 6 cars at Mallala in this terrific class.

[jd yort]

Thanks Dasher.

It seemed they went from 20+ grids to having the same number of cars as the Swift series in a very short time frame.

[Nevpatt]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Is it possible that the Swifts could be added to the AMC grids, with bigger field of something else to fill their place? Or are the Swifts too far removed from the concept of the AMC?

I can't understand why CAMS would approve a category like Swifts in the first place, there is enough categories to choose from already for anyone who wants to racing, too many categories can only deplete grid numbers in other's?

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Nevpatt

I can't understand why CAMS would approve a category like Swifts in the first place, there is enough categories to choose from already for anyone who wants to racing, too many categories can only deplete grid numbers in other's?

Because another category started means CAMS can charge another fee for category rights management

merging classes means they get less income

[Nevpatt]

Originally Posted by one five five

Because another category started means CAMS can charge another fee for category rights management

merging classes means they get less income

Then the category managers pass on the fees adding in a profit margin to the competitors which ends up beyond the average racing budget effecting the amount of entries. Too many entities wanting to make profits out of the competitors investments.

[Rachel Richards]

Originally Posted by Nevpatt

Then the category managers pass on the fees adding in a profit margin to the competitors which ends up beyond the average racing budget effecting the amount of entries. Too many entities wanting to make profits out of the competitors investments.

Welcome to the world of Motortainment.

[bortall]

Weekend weather:

[alfacors]

Practice sessions halted due to track flooding down at Turn 3.

[bludvl_x19]

The day has been called off, this is the view of Turn 1.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

[alfacors]

Absiolutely amazing.... *starts packing his wet weather mud boots for this weekend*

[bortall]

I've seen turn 3 under water - but I've never seen turn 1 with so much water!!!!!

[peckstar]

turn 1

[bortall]

The car you need to do a 1:29.8884 lap of Phillip Island:

[formerf1champ]

Here's the car you don't need to do a 1:29.8884 lap of Phillip Island.

[Rachel Richards]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Here's the car you don't need to do a 1:29.8884 lap of Phillip Island.

Seems he kind of wore the shiney off of it a tad ?

How many hundred dollar notes got torn up there ?

[alfacors]

Congrats to all the winners on the weekend....


Kane Rose took out the Porsche GT3 Cup in his "new" ex-Terry Knight 997 machine. Beating home John Goodacre and Jeff Bobik

Darren Hossack took out the Superkarts ahead of Jason Smith and Gary Pegoraro.

Dylan Thomas (EVO IX), and Garry Holt/Ryan McLeod (EVO X) shared the race wins, and also tied on points for the Australian Manufacturers Championship with Des Wall in another EVO IX in 3rd overall.

Greg Crick's Mopar Viper took out the Australian GT Championship round overall ahead of the Erebus Racing Mercedes duo of Peter Hackett and James Brock.

Kerry Baily took another round win in his Aston Martin ahead of the de-charcoaled Tony Ricciardello Alfa and Michael Robinson's Monaro.

Gavin Bullas held off Brett Youlden and Tony Edwards to win the Touring Car Masters

[david5]

Originally Posted by alfacors

Gavin Bullas held off Brett Youlden and Tony Edwards to win the Touring Car Masters

I hear this may have changed.

[alfacors]

Possible. I hadn't heard anything as yet.

[FalconEL]

Originally Posted by alfacors

Congrats to all the winners on the weekend....

Kerry Baily took another round win in his Aston Martin ahead of the de-charcoaled Tony Ricciardello Alfa and Michael Robinson's Monaro.

Not quite right Nathan, Kerry won the round, Shane Bradford finished second overall (and first in the Trans AM class) with a rock solid effort in the Camaro. Ricciardello limped home to 3rd overall with a very sick engine in that last race.

Hossack had the pace - 1.29:8 is an incredible lap time! , but a DNF with an axle failure in Race 1 and then taking himself out of contention in Race 2 put paid to much of a points gain on Kerry last weekend.

[alfacors]

Originally Posted by FalconEL

Not quite right Nathan, Kerry won the round, Shane Bradford finished second overall (and first in the Trans AM class) with a rock solid effort in the Camaro. Ricciardello limped home to 3rd overall with a very sick engine in that last race.

Hossack had the pace - 1.29:8 is an incredible lap time! , but a DNF with an axle failure in Race 1 and then taking himself out of contention in Race 2 put paid to much of a points gain on Kerry last weekend.

Oops! Was thrown by the pointscores being separated into SS and TA classes! Good run from Shane on the weekend

[Rachel Richards]

BUMP !

Without wanting to sound like a wet blanket, I noticed for Winton they have scheduled a pair of 45 minute races for Commodore Cup ?
Will be very egg on face if only six cars turn up (like at Malala)


Having said that, I anm very excited to see Aust GT, and re-cycled Supercars on the card, as they will put on a great show.

Who else will be there in (9) 10 days ?

[Oreti kid]

will have to wait until August and we have them at QR after the v8sand just before Leyburn Sprints so a busy month.
Have fun at Winton and six evenly match Comodes can still create chaos!!!!

Originally Posted by Rachel Richards

BUMP !

Without wanting to sound like a wet blanket, I noticed for Winton they have scheduled a pair of 45 minute races for Commodore Cup ?
Will be very egg on face if only six cars turn up (like at Malala)


Having said that, I anm very excited to see Aust GT, and re-cycled Supercars on the card, as they will put on a great show.

Who else will be there in (9) 10 days ?

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by Rachel Richards

Without wanting to sound like a wet blanket, I noticed for Winton they have scheduled a pair of 45 minute races for Commodore Cup ?
Will be very egg on face if only six cars turn up (like at Malala)

One would hope the series organiser had required some form of upfront commitment to guarantee a decent field before scheduling such a race distance.