Congrats to Jamie Whincup, 2012 Series Champion! - Page 2

Mixer · 20 Nov 2012, 01:20 (Ref:3168857)

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Originally Posted by Langers

Surely all the drivers in T8 built and supported cars would be a reasonable guide? Not saying they have the very latest bits, but close enough...

Yeah DJR, Tekno, LDM all had dramatically varying fortunes over the weekend.

But DJR have spent most of the year in the 20s, hanging out with the Kelly's so I wonder how they engineered the speed out of them...

rich07 · 20 Nov 2012, 01:40 (Ref:3168860)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

T8 make about 90% less mistakes in pitstops than FPR...

Surely this comes into play

FPR are like the McLaren of V8 Supercars when it comes to pitstop mistakes

aj_308 · 20 Nov 2012, 01:48 (Ref:3168864)

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Originally Posted by rich07

FPR are like the McLaren of V8 Supercars when it comes to pitstop mistakes

um, fastest Pitstop in the last GP was?
(helper)
http://www.formula1.com/results/seas...p_summary.html

STEALTHY · 20 Nov 2012, 01:50 (Ref:3168865)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Yes, I agree, but the speed they were getting out of the soft tyres at the end of Sunday's race (relative to everyone else) was mind boggling.

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Especially the number of laps Jamie did on that last set, when he put them on I was sure he was going to fade at the end.

T8 cars have always been better on their tyres than the rest of the field. And thats with the powerslide happy lowndes...

Sandgroper · 20 Nov 2012, 06:51 (Ref:3168920)

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Originally Posted by deeks6

There is no "becoming" about it. He IS the driver of his generation by a country mile and, quite frankly, as good as anyone I've seen, certainly in the ATCC. He's fast, safe, sporting, technically brilliant, kind to the equipment and a great bloke too. And, its not as if he's had a spud for a teammate ...

Totally agree, the MOST smoothest driver of the car Ive seen driving, turning, gear changing - no tugging or jerking on the steering wheel, no yanking of the shifter, just cool calm and calculated and without doubt
the best driver of this generation.

No one can argue, his record speaks for itself, be it in a Ford or Holden he in untouchable. I know some will say oh its just the exceptional 888 cars, but there's no denying his his ability and wins.

formerf1champ · 20 Nov 2012, 11:19 (Ref:3169001)

I was thinking at the possiblity of Jamie getting a points penalty, which could cost him the title. To make sure he doesn't get any penalty, he doesn't have to race in the event! But then I thought he probably would get docked 1000pts for not racing. They would do that.

Mixer · 20 Nov 2012, 11:36 (Ref:3169007)

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Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Totally agree, the MOST smoothest driver of the car Ive seen driving, turning, gear changing - no tugging or jerking on the steering wheel, no yanking of the shifter, just cool calm and calculated and without doubt the best driver of this generation.

There was once another who had this ability, his name was Allan Moffat.

If you ever go look at the old footage of Brock or DJ vs Moffat, its striking.

Sandgroper · 21 Nov 2012, 00:24 (Ref:3169245)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

There was once another who had this ability, his name was Allan Moffat.

If you ever go look at the old footage of Brock or DJ vs Moffat, its striking.

Oh I totally agree with your comment here, I should have said the "modern era" year 2000s. Otherwise I would have said my childhood idol PB.

but yes exactly

sizzle · 21 Nov 2012, 03:26 (Ref:3169289)

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Originally Posted by formerf1champ

I was thinking at the possiblity of Jamie getting a points penalty, which could cost him the title. To make sure he doesn't get any penalty, he doesn't have to race in the event! But then I thought he probably would get docked 1000pts for not racing. They would do that.

He only needs a318 point penalty.

He could just come under starters orders and then pit. Both races.

Anyway FPR will find a way to trip over their dick and get it wrong so it doesn't matter.

sizzle · 21 Nov 2012, 03:31 (Ref:3169290)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

There was once another who had this ability, his name was Allan Moffat.

If you ever go look at the old footage of Brock or DJ vs Moffat, its striking.

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Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Oh I totally agree with your comment here, I should have said the "modern era" year 2000s. Otherwise I would have said my childhood idol PB.

but yes exactly

I read once many years ago that Moffat was regarded as "not a natural" who had to work harder at it than PB who was regarded as being more "gifted" if that is the right word.

I now return you to regular programming.

Umai Naa · 21 Nov 2012, 04:29 (Ref:3169299)

It was Harry Firth who apparently refined Mr Moffat's driving.

Probably not too dissimilar to Mr Whincup requiring refinement to suit the Triple 8 vehicles.

Mixer · 21 Nov 2012, 04:30 (Ref:3169301)

What is crazy is if you take out Whincup's first 58 races until his first win, he has a 1:3 win ratio. That is amazing.

Axeman444 · 23 Nov 2012, 23:59 (Ref:3170385)

i guess we will see in the RoC just how good he is, against drivers in unfamiliar cars, where everyone has the same equipment.

Either that will shut down the haters, or give them heaps of fodder. Wonder which?

Gaz170 · 26 Nov 2012, 09:57 (Ref:3171609)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

No.. its still possible.

The scenario would have to look like this:
- Mr Winterbottom to win both races..
- Mr Whincup to DNF in both races, but to also nerf somebody else off, and pick up a 25 point penalty for careless driving.

In that highly unlikely, but still mathematically possible, scenario, Mr Winterbottom would become champion

Hence I changed the title to '2012 Champion Elect'

Possible, but extremely unlikely and more chance of me picking next week's lotto numbers. Congrats Jamie, he and 888 have just found that something that puts them in front of everyone else more often.

pigs fly · 26 Nov 2012, 10:53 (Ref:3171634)

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Originally Posted by formerf1champ

I was thinking at the possiblity of Jamie getting a points penalty, which could cost him the title. To make sure he doesn't get any penalty, he doesn't have to race in the event! But then I thought he probably would get docked 1000pts for not racing. They would do that.

THE stewards are looking to ping him for anything.

Downoz · 27 Nov 2012, 10:34 (Ref:3172136)

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Originally Posted by pigs fly

THE stewards are looking to ping him for anything.

Jamie has no chance of losing the title. Maximum point penalty is 300.

7.6.1.8 Deduct series points from a Competitor or a Driver to a maximum of 300
points with a consequent forfeiture any relevant awards (whether of prize
money or of trophies) to which that Driver and/or Competitor may otherwise
have been entitled

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/Portal...t%20update.pdf

Go Harder. · 27 Nov 2012, 19:58 (Ref:3172310)

If Jamie loses 300 points, and doesn't score any new points, then frosty only needs to score 18 points and he will be crowned 2012 Champion.

Highly unlikely but still possible.

STEALTHY · 28 Nov 2012, 07:13 (Ref:3172441)

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Originally Posted by Downoz

Jamie has no chance of losing the title. Maximum point penalty is 300.

7.6.1.8 Deduct series points from a Competitor or a Driver to a maximum of 300
points with a consequent forfeiture any relevant awards (whether of prize
money or of trophies) to which that Driver and/or Competitor may otherwise
have been entitled

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/Portal...t%20update.pdf

lol failmaths

Downoz · 28 Nov 2012, 10:50 (Ref:3172508)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

lol failmaths

No I did not fail, I just assumed that FPR would bugger up and Winterbutt would not finish either races and get no points. We that is my story and I might have to stick to it.

STEALTHY · 28 Nov 2012, 11:04 (Ref:3172511)

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Originally Posted by Downoz

No I did not fail, I just assumed that FPR would bugger up and Winterbutt would not finish either races and get no points. We that is my story and I might have to stick to it.

Cool Story Bro

sizzle · 28 Nov 2012, 12:27 (Ref:3172536)

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Originally Posted by Downoz

No I did not fail, I just assumed that FPR would bugger up and Winterbutt would not finish either races and get no points. We that is my story and I might have to stick to it.

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Cool Story Bro

He is right though FPR giving Frosty the chance of 2 wins is remote

STEALTHY · 28 Nov 2012, 13:33 (Ref:3172558)

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Originally Posted by sizzle

He is right though FPR giving Frosty the chance of 2 wins is remote

The point is its mathamatically possible. We all know it will never happen (maybe if the situation was reversed

)

deeks6 · 30 Nov 2012, 23:11 (Ref:3173734)

This is my prediction - Jamie will do what he does every race meeting ... go out and push like hell to win each race. This is one of the most impressive things about him - treats every race the same and does not put any "implied" pressure on himself. Oddly enough, that approach of "attack is the best form of defence" works 99 times out of 100.

STEALTHY · 1 Dec 2012, 04:23 (Ref:3173793)

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Originally Posted by deeks6

This is my prediction - Jamie will do what he does every race meeting ... go out and push like hell to win each race. This is one of the most impressive things about him - treats every race the same and does not put any "implied" pressure on himself. Oddly enough, that approach of "attack is the best form of defence" works 99 times out of 100.

As seen by the semi conservative driving Vettel adopted in the last race of F1. Almost binned it. Whincup doesn't make that mistake.

Muznik · 2 Dec 2012, 23:49 (Ref:3174369)

Congrats Jamie on a well deserved Championship.

Dogged determination pays off.

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