Damon Hill lambasts Max Mosley - Page 3

Knowlesy · 5 Oct 2007, 19:08 (Ref:2032301)

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Leighton Irwin · 5 Oct 2007, 19:12 (Ref:2032307)

Ah, Mad Max and March. You got a brand new March and you: A. Had to manufacture or obtain pieces to finish building it. B. Had to take it apart and rebuild it anyway because it was so poorly assembled.
The 722 we ran had a problem keeping driveshafts together. Well known problem.
Our 74B had the same problem, same driveshafts. Last race of the year and we received the 'upgraded' F2 driveshafts. We DNF'd. Driveshaft failure.
Never ran a March again.

johnw · 5 Oct 2007, 19:29 (Ref:2032319)

Interesting take on what caused Max to react so venemously in this link to Nigel Roebuck. http://www.autosport.com/asknigel/index.html/id/22792

A public and profuse apology would be the minimum requirement imo, falling on his sword would be more appropriate.

botsquad · 5 Oct 2007, 20:06 (Ref:2032342)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I just think that Hill Mosely and Stewart should just have a big naked fight on the roof of the BRDC building, and just have it out...

thats max's fav reoccuring dream.

Stuart Hill · 5 Oct 2007, 21:39 (Ref:2032403)

[QUOTE=johnw]Interesting take on what caused Max to react so venemously in this link to Nigel Roebuck. http://www.autosport.com/asknigel/index.html/id/22792
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sorry John, that link only works for subscribers.

Stuart Hill · 5 Oct 2007, 21:42 (Ref:2032404)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Buy Motorsport.

for one article....... I don't think so.

didn't buy it before, why should I now?

JeremySmith · 6 Oct 2007, 02:03 (Ref:2032494)

Max Mosley should resign...That would be the respectable thing to do..

NAC · 6 Oct 2007, 02:35 (Ref:2032513)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Max Mosley should resign...That would be the respectable thing to do..

I'll second that motion.

All those in favor

Gt_R · 6 Oct 2007, 06:01 (Ref:2032606)

I'd second that if there is a person who can handle the work well, not just in F1, but also in other aspects of the job scope.

I'm not a fan of Max, and i'd be surprised if anybody is. And i agree with Damon that Max's comments are not appropriate for a person of his position as the president of FIA.

That shouldn't mean that Hill is a good replacement, nor that Stewart himself is a saint. IIRC, Max retort came after Stewart blasted the decision of FIA/WMSC decision for Mclaren, and claim that the federation is corrupt. An assumption, no evidence, just riding the waves of speculation.

In that perspective, Max is wrong to retort to speculative people. But Stewart should attempt to be more responsible with his remarks, given that he also had a certain behavoir expected due to his "position" as a F1's past great. Both fellas have to realise that unless they have something fair and justifiable to say, otherwise it's better to keep their mouth shut. Old age is creeping in.

NAC · 6 Oct 2007, 08:08 (Ref:2032677)

Jean Todt to replace Max. I know it's been said before but if he can be fair he would do a great job IMHO

Super Hans · 6 Oct 2007, 08:52 (Ref:2032697)

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Originally Posted by NAC

Jean Todt to replace Max. I know it's been said before but if he can be fair he would do a great job IMHO

He'd be in a no-win situation. If he ever found in Ferrari's favour, he'd be labelled as biased and corrupt, and if he found against them, he'd be labelled a traitor.

xr8 · 6 Oct 2007, 09:01 (Ref:2032699)

I heard someone say that Max is a halfwit! Now you are totally wrong! For someone to call Max a halfwit, assumes that he has some wit, which I doubt!

davyboy · 6 Oct 2007, 09:02 (Ref:2032701)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Max Mosley should resign...That would be the respectable thing to do..

I'm not sure he should resign over that comment alone, he may already be regretting it and planning to issue and apology... and we should allow people the opportunity to be contrite.

The actions of the FIA this year are a different matter though and people certain should be asking the question whether Max is fit to lead it, or more to the point, whether the FIA in its current form is competent enough to govern Formula 1 with the level of oversight and morality it purports.

Teretonga · 6 Oct 2007, 09:13 (Ref:2032707)

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By duke toaster
I think that his replacement as FIA president should be either Eddie Jordan, Damon Hill or Paul Stoddart - maybe even Mr Minardi ...

Paul Stoddart...definitely.....

NAC · 6 Oct 2007, 09:20 (Ref:2032711)

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Originally Posted by xr8

I heard someone say that Max is a halfwit! Now you are totally wrong! For someone to call Max a halfwit, assumes that he has some wit, which I doubt!

Yea OK that was me (post # 12) I will try to be more awear of what I call Max in the future

davyboy · 6 Oct 2007, 09:41 (Ref:2032719)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

Paul Stoddart...definitely.....

The FIA president shouldn't be passionate and not necessarily entrepreneurial but rather they should a calm, stable, logical, facilitator. The kind of person you need is somebody like David Richards, though with more of a legal background. He's a broad expertise across many disciplines and deals with high level issues and crises equally well.

Its all immaterial as we'll end up with some dufus friend of Bernie's in there when Max goes.

Knowlesy · 6 Oct 2007, 12:51 (Ref:2032849)

Dave Richards is the only option.

Or Nigel Roebuck.

(That one's for you davyboy!)

foreversideways · 6 Oct 2007, 14:40 (Ref:2032916)

I don't have a subscription to Autosport, briefly what does he say ?.

foreversideways · 6 Oct 2007, 14:43 (Ref:2032920)

Because Stuart, Motorsport it is an excellent magazine, possibly the best.

SteveA · 6 Oct 2007, 17:13 (Ref:2033061)

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Originally Posted by NAC

Yea OK that was me (post # 12) I will try to be more awear of what I call Max in the future

Indeed. Max should feel flattered to be called a halfwit.

foreversideways · 6 Oct 2007, 17:28 (Ref:2033075)

I have just been reading the comments page in The Telegraph online. Max appears to be getting a very rough ride on there as well. Also, you have to be bitter about something to attack Stewart in this way. Of course, Stewart has been intimately involved in the Silverstone issue in the past and there appears to be no love lost between him and Ecclestone. As Max is joined at the hip to Bernie perhaps he is being a mouthpiece. You would have thought though, that Max would have known the fondness and high regard that Sir Jackie is held in, inside and outside of motorsport, and realised how his comments would be received.

JeremySmith · 6 Oct 2007, 17:48 (Ref:2033087)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

I'm not sure he should resign over that comment alone, he may already be regretting it and planning to issue and apology... and we should allow people the opportunity to be contrite.

The actions of the FIA this year are a different matter though and people certain should be asking the question whether Max is fit to lead it, or more to the point, whether the FIA in its current form is competent enough to govern Formula 1 with the level of oversight and morality it purports.

It is not just the comment he made about Sir Jackie Stewart though, it is his whole agenda, the stalinist approach he seems to have to most things F1. Just reiterating what has already been said many times before.

f1manoz · 7 Oct 2007, 09:37 (Ref:2033696)

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Originally Posted by CATMAN

A read on recent Jackie Stewart articles in the Telegraph is quite good

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/ma...it/ftfront.xml

Lovely article...

foreversideways · 7 Oct 2007, 13:23 (Ref:2033945)

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Originally Posted by f1manoz

Lovely article...

I understand to keep things equal they are going to run a similar article on Max next week.

Mekola · 7 Oct 2007, 13:40 (Ref:2033962)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

It seems like Max Mosely is not only incompetent, but rude as well.

I think that his replacement as FIA president should be either Eddie Jordan, Damon Hill or Paul Stoddart - maybe even Mr Minardi ...

Even David Richards. We need a FIA president that could allow some plurality in motorsport, and not Formula 1 destroying all potential rivals, as happened with Group C Prototype Sportscars just after Mosley assumed his current role...

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