BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 59

crmalcolm · 29 Nov 2019, 13:01 (Ref:3943645)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

The Insignia GSi is a 2.0 turbo, the 1.5 turbo is available for the rest of the range

The 2.0T Petrol engine was only available in the GSi Insignia from Feb until Aug 2018.

Currently the only engine option for the GSi is the 2.0 BiTurbo D.

crmalcolm · 29 Nov 2019, 13:05 (Ref:3943647)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I'm not one to start or perpetuate rumours, but does anyone recall that throwaway comment (slip of the tongue / a joke?) by a driver who said that Jags were coming in 2020?

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yeah. Wasn't the story contrived around Excelr8 stating they wanted to have a British brand?

Michael Crees said it in a Facebook Live interview. It was reported in post 165 of this thread:

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

If anyone saw Facebook Live on Saturday, Michael Crees pretty much confirmed Jaguar to be coming in (tho my guess would be not with Hard)

jsmee · 29 Nov 2019, 13:28 (Ref:3943650)

Didnt Excelr8 look at Jags? May be wrong...

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crmalcolm · 29 Nov 2019, 13:43 (Ref:3943654)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

Didnt Excelr8 look at Jags? May be wrong...

I'm not certain, but it does feel a bit like:

Cress mentions Jag + Excelr8 mention a new build + Oliver Shepherd saying '[MG] fits with our ‘Great British’ theme' =

'Many rumors have circulated about Triple Eight taking on a new touring car project for the BTCC [...]. Volvo, Kia and more has been mentioned'

And - The [FK2] road car has a flat floor so presumably the touring car is able to use this to its advantage.

S griffin · 29 Nov 2019, 13:45 (Ref:3943656)

It will be nice if Crees is back, he certainly added to the series

mark_l · 29 Nov 2019, 13:49 (Ref:3943658)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

It will be nice if Crees is back, he certainly added to the series

He kept the medical car driver on his toes, deciding when to brake for Crees's first lap accident. Will it be turn 1 or turn 2?

Jiiiiiiim · 29 Nov 2019, 13:51 (Ref:3943659)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I'm not certain, but it does feel a bit like:

Cress mentions Jag + Excelr8 mention a new build + Oliver Shepherd saying '[MG] fits with our ‘Great British’ theme' =

'Many rumors have circulated about Triple Eight taking on a new touring car project for the BTCC [...]. Volvo, Kia and more has been mentioned'

And - The [FK2] road car has a flat floor so presumably the touring car is able to use this to its advantage.

It’s the position of the fuel tank on the FK2 that enables it to have a flatter floor, combined with the other aero, sorry for not being clearer

Johno.UK · 29 Nov 2019, 13:55 (Ref:3943661)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

He kept the medical car driver on his toes, deciding when to brake for Crees's first lap accident. Will it be turn 1 or turn 2?

That's a bit harsh. He had some great results and did really well for someone with such limited experience. He's really taken Austins mantle as the fans favourite as well.

Evantra · 29 Nov 2019, 13:59 (Ref:3943664)

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Originally Posted by Johno.UK

That's a bit harsh. He had some great results and did really well for someone with such limited experience. He's really taken Austins mantle as the fans favourite as well.

Yeah, wasn't quite as bad as I expected but his points total is very much down to wet-dry races. A driver with such limited experience needed another year or two in the Ginettas before stepping up, really.

crmalcolm · 29 Nov 2019, 14:01 (Ref:3943665)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

He kept the medical car driver on his toes, deciding when to brake for Crees's first lap accident. Will it be turn 1 or turn 2?

Seems a bit harsh.

Twice he DNF'd on Lap 1 - the same amount of times as Jordan and Morgan.

If early lap incidents are the metric - then Goff's retirements on Laps 1,1,0,2 and 0 are surely more of a concern?

mark_l · 29 Nov 2019, 14:02 (Ref:3943666)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Yeah, wasn't quite as bad as I expected but his points total is very much down to wet-dry races. A driver with such limited experience needed another year or two in the Ginettas before stepping up, really.

I was maybe being a bit harsh, he scored more points than Nic Hamilton, Rob Smith, Sam Osborne and Carl Boardley combined!

S griffin · 29 Nov 2019, 14:15 (Ref:3943669)

As well as that, he is a true enthusiast and we need more of those in motorsport

crmalcolm · 29 Nov 2019, 14:28 (Ref:3943672)

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Originally Posted by Jiiiiiiim

It’s the position of the fuel tank on the FK2 that enables it to have a flatter floor, combined with the other aero, sorry for not being clearer

I'll post the picture again - it's not flat at all.

It's about as flat as other NGTC builds.

And while we're on the subject of the FK2's non-flat floor, consider the following:

All NGTC cars use the same 80L fuel tank. When discussing the mounting of this in articles, the differences in floor and fuel tank between FK2 and FK8 were revealed in 2018:

'The latest-generation Civic has its fuel tank in a sensible place – by the rear seats – whereas the previous car had it underneath the front seats. For the race car, it was redeployed somewhere that would be safer in a crash anyway, but what it also meant was that the [FK2] car’s floor wasn’t completely flat. Today, it [the FK8 floor] is flatter for longer, nothing protrudes beneath it, not even the race car’s exhaust – this gives aerodynamic advantages.

This can be seen when you look at the FK8 underfloor:

touring fan01 · 29 Nov 2019, 15:29 (Ref:3943691)

i think the original poster was getting confused between the S2000 FK2 and the NGTC FK2. the S2000 FK2 had a 'flat floor' but the NGTC FK2 never did as the regs didnt allow it.

RS67 · 29 Nov 2019, 15:40 (Ref:3943693)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

So far we got Boardley or not Boardley in a Civic or not a Civic run by HARD or not HARD. I'm expecting all of these to be correct, just not necessarily in any of the permutations predicted.

I expect Boardley not to be in a civic.

Evantra · 29 Nov 2019, 16:01 (Ref:3943697)

Mike Bushell for HARD.

Very pleasantly surprised to see him back, but going by his pace at the end of last season he deserves something a little bit quicker.

Still, good luck to him, hope the CC is competitive next season.

With Crees and Coates both heavily rumoured, pretty much confirms the HARD line-up and means Boardley and Thompson (yes!!) are moving on to another team.

jsmee · 29 Nov 2019, 16:03 (Ref:3943698)

Bushell back at Team HARD alongside Goff!

What happened to a 6pm announcement. ..

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Pickles · 29 Nov 2019, 16:03 (Ref:3943699)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

Bushell back at Team HARD alongside Goff!

What happened to a 6pm announcement. ..

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16.00... 😂

Pickles · 29 Nov 2019, 16:04 (Ref:3943700)

Here's the link:

https://www.team-hard.com/bush-all-f...racing-return/

jsmee · 29 Nov 2019, 16:05 (Ref:3943702)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

16.00...

Turns out its me that needs to learn to tell the time...

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porsche962fan · 29 Nov 2019, 16:13 (Ref:3943703)

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish

Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Aidan Moffat
Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Ash Sutton

VW CC - HARD - Jack Goff
VW CC - HARD - Mike Bushell
VW CC - HARD - Carl Broadley ???
VW CC - HARD - ??????

Mercedes - Cicely - Adam Morgan
Mercedes - Cicely - Daniel Rowbottom ?

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - Jason Plato
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ????

Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????
Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????

BMW 3 - WSR - Tom Oliphant
BMW 3 - WSR - Colin Turkington ???
BMW 3 - WSR - ????????

BMW 125 - Team Parker - Stephen Jelley ??

Honda Civic - AMD - ?????
Honda Civic - AMD - ?????

Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Josh Cook ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Tom Chilton ?????

Honda Civic - Simpson Racing - Mat Simpson ??????

Ford Focus - Motorbase - ??????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ??????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ??????

Audi S3 - TPC - ???????
Audi S3 - TPC - ???????

this should be about 29 entries unless someone like BTC or PMR enter a 3rd car

JDMROB · 29 Nov 2019, 16:37 (Ref:3943706)

Genuinely surprised Bushell is at Hard. They have a top driver line up. I just hope they employ the personnel to give them both a reliable and fast car. Think them CCs are well past their best though, no matter what people keep saying. BMR/888 struggled with them towards the end of 2015. That was before GK was let loose in chopping them up. Theyve all had a very hard life. Could do with 2 second hand road going CCs to get some new shells built from IMO. Cheapest way to acquire new cars for the team.

Johno.UK · 29 Nov 2019, 16:51 (Ref:3943709)

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Originally Posted by JDMROB

Genuinely surprised Bushell is at Hard. They have a top driver line up. I just hope they employ the personnel to give them both a reliable and fast car. Think them CCs are well past their best though, no matter what people keep saying. BMR/888 struggled with them towards the end of 2015. That was before GK was let loose in chopping them up. Theyve all had a very hard life. Could do with 2 second hand road going CCs to get some new shells built from IMO. Cheapest way to acquire new cars for the team.

Presumably he'll be engineering his own car again which should reduce the price. HARD is the cheapest seat on the grid anyway so it's probably the only choice he had if he wanted to race in BTCC as budget is always an issue for him.

Robin Marriott · 29 Nov 2019, 17:06 (Ref:3943716)

They’ve got two top drivers so far, Goff was a championship contender in the Civic.

**bella** · 29 Nov 2019, 19:13 (Ref:3943727)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

With Crees and Coates both heavily rumoured

whos doing the heavy rumouring about coates? fans putting two and two together or inside gossip?

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