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10 Mar 2004, 16:52 (Ref:901021)
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"like Ralf, Williams let me down as well!" - JPM
On the new contract issue... apparently JPM was ready to sign by Monaco but the contract never came... so maybe RS is not ENTIRELY(partly yes) to blame for the contract situation...
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10 Mar 2004, 17:20 (Ref:901051)
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Clutching at straws ralfy....
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10 Mar 2004, 17:31 (Ref:901061)
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Seriously, this is always gonna happen atb Williams........on one side, we have Frank Williams and Patrick Head, two of the tightest men in the game we call negotiating. On the other, we have a slighty greedy Ralf and Mr Weber. It really is a recipe for disaster.
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10 Mar 2004, 18:41 (Ref:901128)
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Oh, ralf man, now you're feeling better...
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10 Mar 2004, 19:02 (Ref:901146)
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Bononi, you're the odd one out. The word dullard isn't in your sig.
Anyway, interesting. JPM sticks up for Ralf, whatever next.  To be fair I think that Montoya is simplifying the situation there, just to make his point that he was close to signing? |
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10 Mar 2004, 19:19 (Ref:901168)
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They'll be sharing a bed next.....All this inter team outspokenness combined with the GP last week adds up to rock bottom morale at Williams, surely.
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10 Mar 2004, 19:34 (Ref:901187)
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All goes well for a bloke who can pull a team together.Looks like Webbers not only got a foot in the door but is nearly throgh it.
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10 Mar 2004, 19:54 (Ref:901207)
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10 Mar 2004, 21:23 (Ref:901310)
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Mid season driver changes are coming, mark my words. If these guys continue to make mistakes, or get poor results, whats the point of keeping them the whole year?
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10 Mar 2004, 21:35 (Ref:901328)
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I not so sure. Who will they get you will produce better results for the remainder of the year. Then there is contracts to consider - Frank is not the kind of person to pay for a driver not to race for him!
When was the last time we have a major team change drivers mid-season. It just doesn't happen. And when Williams were getting rid (or knew they were leaving) of drivers it has never happened mid season. Not with Zanardi, Frentzen, Villeneuve, Hill, Prost, Coulthard, Mansell, Piquet, etc... |
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10 Mar 2004, 21:37 (Ref:901331)
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Iirc, Williams haven't changed drivers mid-season for along time, if ever. I don't think it will happen again this season!
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10 Mar 2004, 22:13 (Ref:901366)
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i want jpm and ralf to see the season out...if only to stop the inevitable nine page threads devoted to the return of mr.villeneuve.
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10 Mar 2004, 22:50 (Ref:901402)
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Off the subject sort of but there is talk JV has been linked with Toyota next year.
As for changing drivers mid year I can't see it happening. The Grumpy1 |
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10 Mar 2004, 23:12 (Ref:901429)
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For fear of turning this into another JV thread, hasn't he been linked to every team so far?
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11 Mar 2004, 00:46 (Ref:901481)
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Wasn't the intention but just thinking about it it would be an interesting pairing Ralfie and JV.
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11 Mar 2004, 03:51 (Ref:901542)
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I believe JV has not yet been linked to Arrows, Prost or Phoenix. Better yet, a fantasy retiree team composed of JV and Mika H. Those two together at a news conference - what a hoot!
Seriously, one wonders what Sir Frank and his faithful sidekick Patrick are thinking of when they negotiate with their drivers. They seem to engender really warm and fuzzy feelings though. Who would have thought that Ralf or JPM would have had much to say about the other that would in any way be supportive? Last edited by JohnSSC; 11 Mar 2004 at 03:53. |
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11 Mar 2004, 13:57 (Ref:901990)
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12 Mar 2004, 00:41 (Ref:902613)
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If Williams loses one or two more races to Ferrari, then certainly the two primadonnas, Montoya and Ralfie, will lay down for the rest of the season. They both know that there future doesn't lie with Williams, so whats there motivation? I say sack em, and sack em soon, afterall, Dixon and Gordon are waiting in the wings!
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12 Mar 2004, 03:50 (Ref:902724)
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What has Williams gained from all their overly hardball tactics? A big part of the team is the driver. You can't win the WCC without a team.
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12 Mar 2004, 04:17 (Ref:902750)
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Williams is vulnerable with jpm not behind sir frank 100%. Never known sir frank to not sack someone who desperatley deserved it....
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12 Mar 2004, 12:02 (Ref:903119)
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That won't happen. Only chance of changes is if the drivers stand down of their own accord.
By current form, Williams should be on pace again in Malaysia and JPM prob keep close eye on Mclaren, cos if that stays pants then he'll do everything he can to get out of that contract/stay at Williams i'd imagine. JPM could actually end up 'double bluffing' Ralf out of the way in the process as we know he is unlikely to be with Williams next year. JP could stay with Frank and be rid of his main pia (RS) By the way, his third lap move on Ralf at turn two/three was pretty cutthroat so are we sure that they're really being pleasant with each other?!!!! |
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12 Mar 2004, 15:21 (Ref:903355)
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Are you sure he didn't say "I like Ralf and Williams let me tyres down".
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12 Mar 2004, 20:59 (Ref:903745)
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Having read several articles in both on/off-line rags, I think Sir Frank may simply be looking for some new, young talent, as he has in the past. All of this contract stuff, may be nothing more than him offering both Ralf and Juan a way out.
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