Seeeking detail pics of Gp2 Capri RS2600 and RS3100.

[terence]

There was one for sale in Germany recently. Dont know if it found a new owner though.

[Hunter1300]

Pics:

[terence]

Silly question time,where's the best place to check a 3ltr engine number.Just been offered a spare and would like to know where/what it came from.

[terence]

Please ignore the above,sorted now.

[Greg Cozier]

Originally Posted by Michael Webster

Pictures sent by email. Long shot - but do any of you guys remember a MKI Capri with the Ferguson conversion? White with a black vinyl roof.

There were a couple road cars made and one rally car Roger Clark drove at least once in rallycross. Many months ago I was developing my google-foo and came across a post in an American or Canadian forum about someone restoring one of the road cars. I have never seen reference to where the competition car(s) went but I could e-mail Graham Robson if you like.

[Michael Webster]

Originally Posted by terence bower

There was one for sale in Germany recently. Dont know if it found a new owner though.

Hi Terence, Yes that's the car we have here. Would like to find some pictures of it in period before we start the restoration but no luck so far. Must have been quite revolutionary at the time, trouble is outwardly they are not much different to the standard road car.

[Michael Webster]

Originally Posted by Greg Cozier

There were a couple road cars made and one rally car Roger Clark drove at least once in rallycross. Many months ago I was developing my google-foo and came across a post in an American or Canadian forum about someone restoring one of the road cars. I have never seen reference to where the competition car(s) went but I could e-mail Graham Robson if you like.

Hi Greg, I think their were 16 road cars and 3 competition cars built. I understand most of the road cars had the Cologne V6 fitted and were shipped out of the country. The car we have here has the Essex V6 in it and IRS, which I have never seen on a Capri before!
If you think Graham Robson could help and are happy to contact him for me great!

[Greg Cozier]

Originally Posted by Michael Webster

Hi Greg, I think their were 16 road cars and 3 competition cars built. I understand most of the road cars had the Cologne V6 fitted and were shipped out of the country. The car we have here has the Essex V6 in it and IRS, which I have never seen on a Capri before!
If you think Graham Robson could help and are happy to contact him for me great!

Please post pictures of the IRS. The front setup is very much like what ended up on the 4WD Saphire/Escort 20 years later, diff on alloy sump, shaft through sump etc. so definitely cutting edge. Stated weight was around 1150Kgs, Escort in GpA rally trim struggled to meet 1230Kgs.

[Michael Webster]

Originally Posted by Greg Cozier

Please post pictures of the IRS. The front setup is very much like what ended up on the 4WD Saphire/Escort 20 years later, diff on alloy sump, shaft through sump etc. so definitely cutting edge. Stated weight was around 1150Kgs, Escort in GpA rally trim struggled to meet 1230Kgs.

Hi Greg, Have mailed the image of the IRS to you. Could you please post it up here for me.

[Alex E]

I found this today. Maybe helpful.

[Greg Cozier]

Michael's DeDion rear suspension




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[ferguson]

Noticed there were some interest in the Ferguson Capris. Norm Murdock of Team Blitz in Ohio has a Loyal Jodar Rally Ferguson with Weslake iron heads and 3 solex carbs and 1 donor Ferguson and I have a 72 road going version in need of restoration. Norm is a terrific source of info. He also owns a 72 Grp 2 Capri His email is blitz@teamblitz.com

[Greg Cozier]

Just found this, period proof of Gp2 Capris on the Tour de France rally.

http://slotadictos.mforos.com/126232...r-auto-avance/

[AGP22]

Hi Alex, Peter and all.

I built an RS3100 Gr2 replica sometime ago based on a street RS2600. To do so, I had to talk to a lot of people to get the job done (the available books are not enough), and among them was the creator of the original car, Thomas Ammerschlaeger. He did tell me the car had a special rollcage approved by the FIA that did follow through the firewall and joined the main chassis beams up front. And that the drawings should be in file with the FIA, but that I never found. That same rollcage is visible in the NZ car, Peter Muecke's car, the Ford collection car, and Vince Woodman's originally built 73 Broadspeed Weslake RHD car (later sold to Bo Emmanuelson who raced it in Sweden, Germany and what not, then upgraded it to 74 GAA, and sold it to Vince). And yes, there were two Broadspeed "Cologne" Capris racing in 73, one that crashed, and the RHD that survived.
To my knowledge, there were only three originally built 74 GAAs, the ones mentioned above.
Other cars are 73s upgraded. If anybody knows otherwise, please let me know, I would appreciate it.
The injection was originally Lucas half speed units (requiring ever so much pressure), then they ended up using Kugelfishers. More recent GAA engines (F5000) run quarter speed Lucas units requiring much less pressure.
I'll try to find a picture of my car's engine bay with the rollcage tubes visible and post it here.
Good luck to those here building the replicas, they're awesome machines, but specialty builds (the worst part is actually lowering them properly).

[AGP22]

There you go!

[Peter Mallett]

Excellent, thanks for that info.

[Greg Cozier]

Thanks for that AGP. Could you please tell us what inner rear wheel arches you used?

[AGP22]

Inner wheel arches: We used the originals, we cut the sheet metal on the rear wall to allow bringing them in, and welded some additional sheet metal in the gap between the wheel well and the body.

Then later, when installing the rear radiators, we fabricated a complete new rear wall.

I'll try to find pictures.

[Greg Cozier]

Originally Posted by AGP22

Inner wheel arches: We used the originals, we cut the sheet metal on the rear wall to allow bringing them in, and welded some additional sheet metal in the gap between the wheel well and the body.

I'll try to find pictures.

Thanks, that is very interesting. You can't do that on an Escort because you need to increase the diameter of the tub as well as the inner width. Earlier in this post you'll see my comment about the factory using Ford Taunus wheel tubs, I assumed to get the larger diameter and width. The Alan Mann Escorts used the inner wheel arch from a Mk1 Ford Transit.

[brown dog]

Originally Posted by AGP22

Hi Alex, Peter and all.

I built an RS3100 Gr2 replica sometime ago based on a street RS2600. To do so, I had to talk to a lot of people to get the job done (the available books are not enough), and among them was the creator of the original car, Thomas Ammerschlaeger. He did tell me the car had a special rollcage approved by the FIA that did follow through the firewall and joined the main chassis beams up front. And that the drawings should be in file with the FIA, but that I never found. That same rollcage is visible in the NZ car, Peter Muecke's car, the Ford collection car, and Vince Woodman's originally built 73 Broadspeed Weslake RHD car (later sold to Bo Emmanuelson who raced it in Sweden, Germany and what not, then upgraded it to 74 GAA, and sold it to Vince). And yes, there were two Broadspeed "Cologne" Capris racing in 73, one that crashed, and the RHD that survived.
To my knowledge, there were only three originally built 74 GAAs, the ones mentioned above.
Other cars are 73s upgraded. If anybody knows otherwise, please let me know, I would appreciate it.
The injection was originally Lucas half speed units (requiring ever so much pressure), then they ended up using Kugelfishers. More recent GAA engines (F5000) run quarter speed Lucas units requiring much less pressure.
I'll try to find a picture of my car's engine bay with the rollcage tubes visible and post it here.
Good luck to those here building the replicas, they're awesome machines, but specialty builds (the worst part is actually lowering them properly).

Just to clarify a bit more, the "special" rollcage referred to by AGP really is quite special, but I don't know if you would get it approved these days! The door bars start at the main roll hoop, run forward and down the A pillar, through the dash, then FORWARD through the bulkhead and to the front chassis rails. The bars you can see ihn the engine bar are actually the door bars. Quite unusual! There are two short vertical bars that connect from the floor to the A pillar area. First impression is that it is a regular door bar, but it certainly is not!

Here are a couple of pics of our build, Ric Wood has done a fabulous job building our engine, this was from a NOS unbuilt Cosworth engine kit that he found:

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and we have a very talented fabricator working on the shell prep:







and an equally talented guy making plugs/moulds for the body panels:







Conrad

[Hunter1300]

Do we know who was building broadspeed capris reps a couple of years ago? I know they were offering a fully built period correct (ish) cars.

They build this car I remember is debut at Mallory 2008

also A friend sent me a pic of the now Ex Vince woodman capri after a 'small'
off from the hairpin the same year.

[Peter Mallett]

It was Weslake engineering. I think they still have a couple of bodyshells.

[zakspeed65]

Looking good Conrad, I know it will be Fantastic when finished. Keep the updates coming.

Cheers,

Gary.

[Hunter1300]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

It was Weslake engineering. I think they still have a couple of bodyshells.

I might be wrong but it wasnt weslake I was thinking of Peter, the company in question were importing solid shells possibly from the states (dont quote me on that) doing all the needed work to convert them into correct spec.

I know this as at the time I had a friend in OZ wanting to enquire into these cars he was looking at try to get a capri built then I was to strip it to 'kit' form and send it over at various intervals this was to get round certain duties that may have needed to be paid.
In the end the deal fell through for various reasons but I cant remember the name of the company.
Surely old age isnt setting in yet????

Did weslake build the green and white capri?
It may be old news to some but didnt realise Ric Wood has purchased weslake that seems like a good pairing and keeping the legacy moving forward has to be a good thing.

[Peter Mallett]

Well, http://www.weslake-capri.com/.