Atten-shun! Guards F5000 pics

DaveM · 8 Dec 2002, 00:21 (Ref:445319)

Well okay, it was Guards cigarettes not the soldiers who sponsored the F5000 Championship in the UK. The Kincraft thread almost leads directly to F5000 as it was one of the best known big engined single seaters in the years before.

I have posted a pic on the Kincraft thread of the first appearance (unless of course you know better...) in a UK race of a pukka F5000 before the championship began - Tony Lanfranchi at Brands in January 69, but the first photo here has to be the winner of the first race at Oulton on 4th April 69, Peter Gethin in the works McLaren M10A. Entered I believe by Church Farm Racing - what history of them please experts?

Vitesse · 8 Dec 2002, 14:03 (Ref:445629)

IIRC Church Farm Racing was set up by Bernard Hender, aka "The Colonel", as a vehicle for his stepson to make his way in F2. They ran a Brabham BT23C in 1968, leading to the stepson getting a F2 drive with Ferrari and a McLaren F1 seat the following year. Who was that? Derek Bell, no less....

Church Farm continued and were one of the leading F5000 teams in the early years of the class.

Andrew Kitson · 9 Dec 2002, 18:51 (Ref:446461)

Church Farm Racing was based in Pagham near Bognor Regis in W.Sussex. Derek still lives there now.

DaveM · 10 Dec 2002, 00:53 (Ref:446668)

Thanks for those replies guys. Great to know there are such knowledgeable friends here to fill the gaps.

I have been rooting around over the weekend to try to find my old negatives and prints. I couldn't find them anywhere, but (of course) as soon as I told my wife what I was looking for, bingo! she went straight to them in a couple of shoeboxes under the stair. Women! Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.

Among the stuff were the programmes from three Oulton F5000 meetings including the practice and results bulletins for the 4.4.69 and 27.3.70 meetings, where I had wangled a press/photographers pass (my Dad knew the Sports Editor of the local evening paper and he used to get them for me, including one British GP, but wasn't interested in prin ting any reports or photos).

Here is a selection of shots, starting with Mike Hailwood rounding Old Hall at Oulton on 20.9.69. I don't have the programme for this meeting but I think it was the T142 owned by Paul Hawkins. It was big and red anyway.

DaveM · 10 Dec 2002, 00:56 (Ref:446669)

Here's Bob Miller in his Dulon LD8 at Oulton 22.8.70.

DaveM · 10 Dec 2002, 01:00 (Ref:446670)

Fred Saunders in the Crossle 15F entered by Mermaid Racing and sponsored by the London School of Flying. He had a Lanfranchi lookalike helmet. This is at the Mallory hairpin, but I don't know the date.

DaveM · 10 Dec 2002, 01:02 (Ref:446672)

And finally for tonight, one of those quiz questions for the REALLY knowledgeable, or those with good records. Who and what?

allenbrown · 11 Dec 2002, 17:11 (Ref:447737)

Easy peasy!

That's Lingard Goulding in the one-off Beattie P1100, a car built using pieces of the Lola T190 (190/F1/15-2) that Mike Hailwood crashed in practice at Mondello at the end of May.

Goulding appeared five times with the Beattie that season, at Thruxton (9 Aug), the Gold Cup (22 Aug), Snetterton (31 Aug), Hockenheim (13 Sep) and Brands Hatch (27 Sep).

Dave - I just replied on the wrong thread (the "Remember the Kincraft" thread). To quote myself:

Quote:

Originally posted by allenbrown
Dave

I have race numbers in the database but hadn't modified the results page to show them - I have just done this and the number appear now in grey after the driver's name. At some point, I'll add an entry list for each race but the information I have is somewhat thin.

If you have any pictures that need hosting, I would be very happy to make space for them on OldRacingCars.com.

Would you allow me to use the pictures you have posted here on my site? In particular, I'd like to use the picture of Tommy Reid's Crossle, the Russell-Ford and that excellent picture of Lanfranchi in Taylor's Lola T142 (SL142/20).

Allen

All the 1969 UK F5000 races are now available on my site here. Next to be published will be US 1970 and UK 1970 with US 1969 and US 1968 lagging not far behind.

Allen

allenbrown · 11 Dec 2002, 17:18 (Ref:447742)

And the other pictures here are:

Peter Gethin in McLaren M10A (M10A-1) at Round 1, Mike Hailwoood in Lola T142 (SL142/40) at at Round 11 and, as you've said, Miller in the Dulon LD8 (1) and Saunders in Crosslé 15F (15F6942), probably in the 25 May 1970 Mallory race.

Allen

DaveM · 11 Dec 2002, 19:17 (Ref:447804)

Thanks Allen - I have just replied to your PM.

Easy peasy indeed. I now know who to turn to for missing F5000 info!

DaveM · 20 Dec 2002, 23:52 (Ref:454568)

Here are a few more photos from the opening Guards F5000 round at Oulton on 4th April 1969, all at Old Hall corner. Firstly, Peter Gethin leads Hobbs, Hailwood, Forbes and Walker on the opening lap.

DaveM · 20 Dec 2002, 23:54 (Ref:454570)

Gethin went on to win by the way. David Hobbs, shown here in the works Surtees TS5, finished second.

DaveM · 20 Dec 2002, 23:57 (Ref:454571)

This is Mike Walker in Alan McKechnie's Lola T142. He finished 7th.

DaveM · 21 Dec 2002, 00:02 (Ref:454574)

Here's Jock Russell resplendant in tartan helmet in his Lotus 43, followed (I think) by Ian Mitchell and Robs Lamplough, but no doubt Allen Brown can correct or confirm.

DaveM · 21 Dec 2002, 00:07 (Ref:454578)

Willy Forbes retired due to an accident - perhaps this bent wing stay contributed.

DaveM · 21 Dec 2002, 00:10 (Ref:454585)

Finally for tonight, one of the less successful attempts, the four wheel drive Hepworth driven by Bev Bond, but not very far - he only completed one lap.

allenbrown · 21 Dec 2002, 10:36 (Ref:454781)

Great pictures, Dave! Sorry I can't help with the two cars following Jock - my car recognition skills just aren't that good.

Allen

DaveM · 22 Dec 2002, 00:39 (Ref:455158)

There may only be you and me viewing this thread Allen, but what the heck. Todays offering includes a bit of understeer, a touch of the opposite(s), a rural scene of dejection and your puzzle pic.

The understeer is demonstrated by Peter Gethin at Oulton in September 69...

DaveM · 22 Dec 2002, 00:42 (Ref:455162)

...same meeting, same corner (Old Hall). Ian Ashley shows what hanging the radiator at the back does for the handling. The Kitchiner K3 (a higher mountain to climb!).

DaveM · 22 Dec 2002, 00:46 (Ref:455165)

Here Willie Forbes starts practicing folk singing down on the farm.

DaveM · 22 Dec 2002, 00:48 (Ref:455167)

Please identify this well built chap at Mallory in 71. Thanks!

gfm · 22 Dec 2002, 11:42 (Ref:455404)

Dave M - wonderful pictures great board down to you. V well done.

Is the big lad Terry Sanger again or Ulf Norinder? I though Norinder was always in a Lola though. I can't even identify the chassis and is that a Ford V6 in the back? Looks a bit like a GRD.

Good game.

Roger H · 22 Dec 2002, 12:30 (Ref:455425)

The driver is Terry Sanger and the car is the Harrier. If I remember correctly it ended up in the mallory lake one meeting.

DaveM · 22 Dec 2002, 23:15 (Ref:455779)

You are right about Ulf Norinder, gfm, he started in a T142 in '69. This sis him at Oulton in Round 1 on 4th April.

DaveM · 22 Dec 2002, 23:19 (Ref:455782)

In 1970 Norinder campaigned a T190 and here he is almost exactly a year later (27th March).

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