Nyirad Live !

[rx-guru]

Originally Posted by Dutch-RX

Points for practice
Like the Superpole in Moto GP.
No 'hiding' for (fast) drivers to try to get maybe a good run in a heat with some slower drivers.

Yep, "to drive truly flat out" meant exactly that.

Setting a bad time in timed practice can give one a very good result in the the first qualifying heat. See Marcus Grönholm at Höljes in 2008, it all resulted in his overall victory. Eventually helped by Kenneth Hansen in the A final for not demanding his "right of way" when the Finn came out of his Joker Lap…

[chunder]

The Russians problem was caused by stupid driving pure and simple

The white car could ahve easily given room, but decided to drive into his coutryman thereby preventing him goping round him inot the next right hander.

Simple penalty should suffice, nowt to do with joker runde

[PhergAthor]

Please guys, some hounesty.

Timur knew very well that Ildur was exiting the jokerlap, hence him running wide due to excessive speed and bumping into his compatriot. Ildurs reaction was equally agressive in the next corner.

I do concur with the joker sceptisism, as it takes away the battle on the main track. But I can also see the advantages of not having a pile-up in the first corner.

[rx-guru]

No Joker, no problem with going in and/or coming out for anyone, pure and simple.
From my point of view the Joker is no lesser danger than the "problems" it should solve.

[WJM]

Originally Posted by chunder

The Russians problem was caused by stupid driving pure and simple

The white car could ahve easily given room, but decided to drive into his coutryman thereby preventing him goping round him inot the next right hander.

Simple penalty should suffice, nowt to do with joker runde

The white car had right of way. Even if he punted the silver car in the wall he would not get a penalty. Ildar was double at fault, first for not letting Timur pass by him and second for trashing him in the barriers the next corner.

[PhergAthor]

Originally Posted by WJM

The white car had right of way. Even if he punted the silver car in the wall he would not get a penalty.

This is balantly ignoring the "spirit" of the rule to give way.

In no way anybody ever intended the jokerlap to be an excuse to intentionally and without punishment trash a competitor who comes out of the joker.

[rx-guru]

Originally Posted by PhergAthor

This is balantly ignoring the "spirit" of the rule to give way.

In no way anybody ever intended the jokerlap to be an excuse to intentionally and without punishment trash a competitor who comes out of the joker.

I think you misunderstood his point. I guess he wanted to say that by demanding his right of way makes, according to the rules, nobody else but Ildur guilty for the resulting first accident. The rules are very clear: It is not up to the driver on the original track to take care about the driver doing the Joker, but the other way round!

[WJM]

Originally Posted by PhergAthor

This is balantly ignoring the "spirit" of the rule to give way.

In no way anybody ever intended the jokerlap to be an excuse to intentionally and without punishment trash a competitor who comes out of the joker.

I'm sure you remember this between Pauwels and Van Mechelen last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab2F_1JjcWQ
(around the 4:00 mark)

Or the seasonfinale between Pauwels and Coox? (You could rewatch that on rally-action).

If those two situations are not a case of driving someone of the track intentionally, than what is???

Both times the verdict was clear: Pauwels was right and the others had to make way!

[chunder]

You are right Eddi

It's dan pain in the arse, so much so that I cant be bothered to argue about it anymore, so let's scrap it

Surely YOU HAVE THE POWER!!

[Dutch-RX]

The start of the whole mess with the russian guys was or is the Jokerlap in Nyirad. No matter what happend later or what somebody knew. So Ildur had to stop and see what Timor was doing. He stops also because he does not want to hit Ildur???

[1975DCS]

Originally Posted by Dutch-RX

What is next? Traffic lights?

Lol! Roundabouts?

[1975DCS]

Originally Posted by rx-guru

When I began following RX in the mid 1970s nearly everywhere in Europe the first qualifying heat started at 13.00h on Sunday, later it was changed on most venues to 11.00h. In Germany and some other countries they had 100+ entries to handle – and managed to do so! I’ve even attended RX events with 120+ starters. To split the event over Saturday and Sunday started in the UK and Norway, charging the people more money was the main point. For me another reason that RX lost a lot of spectators. Instead of one day packed with action, action, action the weekends are sometimes pretty boring. In America they know and understand that most people can only kept following things for four or five hours with 100% interest and full atentiveness, therefore they do mainly very compact events over there. But in RX Europe this will possibly ignored forever…

I would love to see all racing on one day! The time saved on saturday could be used for more practising... This helps the new kids on the block learning the tracks...

Maybe FTD should be rewarded by one point as well...