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Old 15 Nov 2006, 11:17 (Ref:1766660)   #1
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Bathurst entry lists for 1960s

Can anyone point me in the right direction to find entry lists for Bathurst or other major touring car races from the 1960s - especially 1964/1965?

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Old 15 Nov 2006, 13:00 (Ref:1766759)   #2
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minis, Cortina GT, HOldens ( don't know which) , Toyota Corona, Volvo amazon, VW Beetle,

theres a gret video on the MArket with everything . . .

have a look here for the winners cars of 63 and 65, I'm building one at the moment

http://www.throbnozzle-racing.co.uk/.../Bathurst.html

it was mini 64 Iand 66 I think
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 13:15 (Ref:1766776)   #3
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correction, Cortina won in 63, 64 and 65, mini 66

1962 was Phillip Island I think ?
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 13:39 (Ref:1766801)   #4
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Studebaker, went really well . . . .for a while, I seem to recall it being quick but spending more times in the pits than the Cortinas

http://www.studebakerracing.com/internat.html

great pics etc there
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 16:00 (Ref:1766943)   #5
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Joe, yes saw that and it seems the car is for sale in Aus....
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 16:54 (Ref:1766993)   #6
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been window shopping have we

I don't know anything about them, but I'd imagine they can be made to move at a reasonable lick

there must be some rapid Holdens about as well ? ? ? or are they all a bit bargelike in that period ?
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 21:00 (Ref:1767168)   #7
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Cheers Joe,

Holdens only went V8 in 1967 and Falcons in 68 (or vice versa). So against a 65 Mustang notch back its not going to be a lot of fun!

As you know, Simon and I ran the LC in this years 6 hours but they are just not up to the really long distance punishment that a big lazy V8 will take. Hence my search for 3 things:

1. a big lazy unstressed engine that will run and run; and

2. as a kiwi, something from closer to home and a bit different (everyone has a Mustang etc these days); and

3. the holy grail (jokes!)

Ideas anyone?
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Old 16 Nov 2006, 00:10 (Ref:1767276)   #8
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go to www.natsoft.com.au and our GroupNb pre 1965 Historic sedan
category has results for your class of car from all over Australia.Nothing
will beat the faster Mustangs.Chev Nova,Studebaker Cruiser are good
lightweight V8s but the humble EH Holden 179 even with its now well sorted drum brakes and 3 speed box are hard to beat due to 40 years of race development.As an indication as raced under our GroupNb rules they lap Bathurst as quick as a 2000 Subaru WRX Sti-about 2:51.
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go to www.natsoft.com.au and our GroupNb pre 1965 Historic sedan
category has results for your class of car from all over Australia.Nothing
will beat the faster Mustangs.Chev Nova,Studebaker Cruiser are good
lightweight V8s but the humble EH Holden 179 even with its now well sorted drum brakes and 3 speed box are hard to beat due to 40 years of race development.As an indication as raced under our GroupNb rules they lap Bathurst as quick as a 2000 Subaru WRX Sti-about 2:51.

Many thanks for this - I've been doing some trawling through these and it is certainly interesting to see what does well. The EH looks like an interesting option. Do people run with the column change or are you allowed to fit a floor shift?

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Old 20 Nov 2006, 03:56 (Ref:1769997)   #10
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Floor shift is acceptable although it won't help-just gets your arm too far away from the steering wheel !

The utilities had wider drum brakes which are legal. Get a Girling or VH44 servo,5.5JJ X 13 Mags,3 x 45 Webers,3.55 LSD,heat up the steering knuckle
and bend some Neg camber & Pos caster into it [ fine tune using standard adjustment],front very low with really big antirollbar,REAR flattened 7 leaf utility springs,no antirollbar---well thats part of it !!!

By the way how restrictive are your regs -?- Brock prepared his 1953 FX UNDER SOME VERY LENIENT CODE-WAS THAT UNIQUE TO gOODWOOD??
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Old 20 Nov 2006, 11:45 (Ref:1770541)   #11
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its called no rules Johnny

Roger, I think the LC is capable, but not in sprint spec ! I'd still rather the tougher GT for longer races, although its never going to be as fast.

Studebaker could be interesting.
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Old 20 Nov 2006, 14:23 (Ref:1770661)   #12
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Never going to be as fast,Zef the GT I had the pleasure of driving on LeJog had a genuin 176bhp,Lotus,es were really no problem!
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Old 20 Nov 2006, 15:43 (Ref:1770708)   #13
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176 is possible, but not to FiA spec . . . 150 I'm working on rather than 135, but keeping it relaible then becomes the issue. . . . I'll see after the Winter rebuild and dyno test

Twinks at 176 should be reliable if well built
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I did not build that one but I,m sure it was legal.
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