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Old 1 Mar 2007, 19:50 (Ref:1854871)   #1
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Lighter Formula Ford Wheels

Has anybody else received this email.

Not that i am against this but i am just a little confused as to how this can be legal and unchallenged by the BRSCC.

With all the trouble that phil has gone to, to try and push through cranks and lighter flywheels with no performance advantage. The refusal by the BRSCC because they thought that it would be a performance gain and require investment by everyone to keep up. How can they say no to that when;

we find that we all have to buy new wheels to keep up.

NEW! - LIGHTER FORMULA FORD WHEELS

New for 2007 is a state of the art, lighter Formula Ford 1600 wheel.
Weller high strength, quality & value for money
New patented manufacturing technique
New high strength lightweight steel
0.7kg lighter per wheel
Less rotating mass = improved acceleration & braking
Less unsprung mass = more mechanical grip
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Old 1 Mar 2007, 20:52 (Ref:1854914)   #2
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Or you could always go on a diet!
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Old 2 Mar 2007, 11:01 (Ref:1855448)   #3
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As they are steel wheels they should be legal.

The density and rigidity if steel doesn't change significantly for different grades. I'd be interested to know how they save so much weight and still make a wheel that would perform well enough or survive in normal FF wheel-to-wheel action!
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Old 2 Mar 2007, 16:06 (Ref:1855645)   #4
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As they are steel wheels they should be legal.

The density and rigidity if steel doesn't change significantly for different grades. I'd be interested to know how they save so much weight and still make a wheel that would perform well enough or survive in normal FF wheel-to-wheel action!

That's my view Dunlop made a lighter wheel in the mid 80s and we tried them and the back ones broke in the summer and that was without hitting curbs or "close racing".

Perhaps they aren't selling enough!!

You can use any steel wheel as all as they are the correct size etc. Interestingly the rules suggest you renew your wheels quite often every few races? I think it says!
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 05:36 (Ref:1858636)   #5
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Has anybody else received this email.

Not that i am against this but i am just a little confused as to how this can be legal and unchallenged by the BRSCC.

With all the trouble that phil has gone to, to try and push through cranks and lighter flywheels with no performance advantage. The refusal by the BRSCC because they thought that it would be a performance gain and require investment by everyone to keep up. How can they say no to that when;

we find that we all have to buy new wheels to keep up.

NEW! - LIGHTER FORMULA FORD WHEELS

New for 2007 is a state of the art, lighter Formula Ford 1600 wheel.
Weller high strength, quality & value for money
New patented manufacturing technique
New high strength lightweight steel
0.7kg lighter per wheel
Less rotating mass = improved acceleration & braking
Less unsprung mass = more mechanical grip
Nothing wrong with lighter wheels. No change to the regs are needed, just spend your money if you want to lose upto 3kgs from your car.
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 09:36 (Ref:1858752)   #6
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Chris what are you doing posting at 5:36am!!
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 10:30 (Ref:1858785)   #7
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 16:42 (Ref:1859022)   #8
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Nothing wrong with lighter wheels. No change to the regs are needed, just spend your money if you want to lose upto 3kgs from your car.
Don't have a problem with it. Just find it a contradiction of ethics.

Not allowed decent engine parts because? - well it was thought that people would have to spend money. A lot of fuss.

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New weller wheels, where you do have to spend money. No fuss.
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 17:16 (Ref:1859040)   #9
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Does anyone really think that the lighter wheels are going to make any quantifiable difference to their cars performance?

I wouldn't have thought so.

Their advert should carry a health warning - "These wheels will only make a difference when used as part of a larger weight reduction programme."

I bet you get that much of a difference in the weight of the tyres, judging by the large variation in diameter that they come in.
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 18:27 (Ref:1859080)   #10
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0.7kg per wheel off rotating mass though........ which will have a greater effect on performance on the car than loosing 2.8kg from the ol' beer belly.
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 18:49 (Ref:1859100)   #11
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whether that will actually add up to something a driver feels out on the track and will be translated into a performance advantage remains to be seen but it has additional benefits over simply loosing 2.8kg from the car
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Old 5 Mar 2007, 20:15 (Ref:1859159)   #12
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It aint 5.36a.m. in Alcatraz
As Diz pointed out I am in San Francisco so was only 9.36pm for me.

Any weight reduction is good so 2.8kg's is better than nothing. But it is a bit like that silencer change a couple of years ago that everybody bought......did it make anyone any quicker or did everyone get conned into thinking it was quicker. You pay your money you take the chance.

Paying top money for things does not mean success. Kartingdad do you think Stu will be quicker in an 07 Ray when both lads won many races in the trusty old swift...? You could have saved your money and bought light wheels for the Swift
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That's my view Dunlop made a lighter wheel in the mid 80s and we tried them and the back ones broke in the summer and that was without hitting curbs or "close racing".

Perhaps they aren't selling enough!!
I would guess that if they did turn out to be not quite up to the job the powers that be would make them compulsory.
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I would guess that if they did turn out to be not quite up to the job the powers that be would make them compulsory


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