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That's a fair point but it is a fine line between dreamer and charlatan. The cynical side of me is leaning towards the latter.
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"You may very well think that, I couldn't possibly comment." Whatever, I'm sure it is NOT a clever marketing campaign. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk |
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Yeah, I don't understand the thought it's a clever marketing campaign. They haven't produced anything yet so what are they marketing? The name isn't worth anything and has been dropped, the previous advertising can't be sold with the old logos, any produced product not yet sold has to be destroyed if it has the old logo, there's nothing left to market or sell. Feels to me like a blowhard who suckered people in for fast cash and profits blinding them to the obvious.
I'm thinking we'll find out they were washing illegitimate cash and now Storey and his underling Zoran Terzic have clean cash in their accounts. Probably much less than they were hoping but some is better than none. The question is whose money was it and has his big mouth doomed him now? |
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I agree that it's not some clever marketing campaign. It is the dumpster fire that it appears to be.
Will the company move forward with a product or is the recent steps the first steps toward a controlled dissolution? Did the new owners pay Whyte what they are owed? Do they have funds to honor whatever agreement exists with Haas? Lightning Volt can't be the new brand name. Will it be Rich Energy or something else? What will be on the Haas car at the next GP? Richard |
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I remember DC saying he needed the permission of all the other teams to run his Wings for Life livery for his last race in Brazil in 08
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I believe that teams are permitted to change liveries at any time during the season, provided that they change both cars.
However, I further believe that Haas would need to get the approval of all the other teams to change the name of the team's entrant assuming that Rich Energy no longer exists as title sponsor. Currently the team is officially known as Rich Energy Haas F1 Team. |
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In the County Court at Mayors and City of London Thursday 18 July 2019 Before Recorder Deal QC Start TimeCase Details 10:00 AM E01CL088 1) MR PETER SHAKESHAFTS 2) VIN-X LIMITED -v- 1) MR WILLIAM STOREY 2) RICH ENERGY LIMITED - 1 DAY FAST TRACK TRIAL |
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BDG Group (Business Debt Gone) buys a failing company for £ 1, changes directors, registered address and company name and then tries to save directors bacon (of course at the expense of all those owed money) for an undisclosed fee.
They're proud of being the UK's leading "unlicensed Insolvency Practitioners"... but that almost seems normal for William Storey and Rich Energy... I see Rich Energy have changed their Twitter profile pics to a re-designed antler logo and their website as well... Last edited by andrewc; 18 Jul 2019 at 15:17. |
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The redesign antler logo is quite clearly a "twos up" insult.
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And now Red Bull get in on the act....
With the expected we are better twitter response from Storey / Rich Energy https://twitter.com/rich_energy/stat...7Ctwgr%5Etweet Had to laugh at the reference to Mr Ginger Spice and Dr Helmet This gets better every day. |
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I know I am adding to an already bloated thread but help me with this .,The thread on Niki Lauda's death ran to 4 pages ,this one to 11 . The former was about one of our greatest ever drivers , the latter about a snake oil huckster in F1 coming unstuck , the latest in a very , very long line. What am I missing ? Why is it so interesting ? It's only , y'know, just a sticker on a car ...
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I remember people used to say F1 was one of the greatest soap operas ever. This seems to confirm the fact, although the saga of Rich Energy seems more like a sitcom
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The existence of this claim was brought to the public domain by Storey, which does raise questions over its validity.
An interesting article here though does seem to suggest this is a legitimate case. 'Although the defendants have not yet filed a defence, because the claim is under the Shorter Trials Scheme (STS) the Particulars of Claim give a good flavour of the key issues in dispute. RBG bases its claim on two UK trade marks: no. 3129030 for RED BULL, and no. 3058007 for GIVES YOU WINGS (both for energy drinks in Class 32). It alleges that the defendants have used (in advertising): The hashtag #betterthanredbull in various posts on the Rich Energy Instagram, Facebook and Twitter pages; The signs WINGS and GIVES YOU WINGS as part of "FORGET THE WINGS" and "FORGET WINGS RICH ENERGY GIVES YOU HORNS" on the Rich Energy Facebook page and website; and The sign BULL as part of "NO BULL", "No Bull..." (which, on two occasions, was posted in blue and red, the colours prominently features on Red Bull products) and "#nobull" on the Rich Energy Facebook, Twitter and Instagram pages. ' |
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Yeah, that would only work for a quick more laid back tweet style, esp IF the Haas passes a Red Bull on track. But his efforts seemed more angry and mock the successful brand.
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For those with an Autosport subscription, there's a full article on this saga at https://www.autosport.com/f1/feature...e-sponsor-saga
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Rich energy logo replaced by something very similar on Rick Parfitt's car😜
https://mobile.twitter.com/RickParfittJnr/status/1152263609524850688 |
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