BTCC BTCC 2018 Rumours & Silly Season - Page 77

el_cat · 9 Feb 2018, 18:59 (Ref:3800032)

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Originally Posted by luckn002

Think this is correct... might have missed someone...

3 - BMR (rumoured)
2 - Dynamics
3 - Eurotech
4 - HARD
4 - AMD
2 - BTC
2 - Motorbase
2 - Ciceley
1 - Laser Tools (MB?)
1 - Speedworks
1 - HMS
2 - PMR
3 - WSR
1 - Parker

I would guess Speedworks would be most likely to expand having a spare Avensis and doing very well last year.

Other than that... Parker? 2x Focii if the BMW rumours are only rumours? Thinking aloud...

Of course the curveball is if Moffat takes the 3rd BMR seat, thus technically using his own TBL and leaving another one free. So it could be that there are 3 TBLs unaccounted for (including the Parker one, who haven’t announced anything yet)

winslade6770 · 9 Feb 2018, 19:20 (Ref:3800038)

Noticed TD have been counting down the years of the civic on instagram not sure what they will show for 2018?

sceptic · 9 Feb 2018, 19:24 (Ref:3800041)

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Originally Posted by RS67

If they had a spare, why didn't they build it up last year for Plato? Last year, on tv, they even went as far as saying they didn't have the money to replace his car.

Having a shell and having the money to convert it into a racecar are two very different things.

RS67 · 9 Feb 2018, 19:56 (Ref:3800052)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Having a shell and having the money to convert it into a racecar are two very different things.

I guess that shows how little money Plato brought to the team last year as well as Subaru. I wonder if it will be much better this year.

Alfisti · 9 Feb 2018, 20:06 (Ref:3800056)

Well Silverline were present in 2016 only, Tesco are only a helmet sticker these days... and the VW in 2015 was blankety blank until the last few meetings.

Does look like backers are harder to find...

RS67 · 9 Feb 2018, 20:34 (Ref:3800062)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Well Silverline were present in 2016 only, Tesco are only a helmet sticker these days... and the VW in 2015 was blankety blank until the last few meetings.

Does look like backers are harder to find...

Or Plato isn't seen as a viable proposition anymore. BMR"s budget really wasn't up to much last year, I may have said it before but if they have a similar budget again this year, it begs the question how many more seasons they will have in the BTCC.

sceptic · 9 Feb 2018, 21:44 (Ref:3800089)

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Originally Posted by RS67

I guess that shows how little money Plato brought to the team last year as well as Subaru. I wonder if it will be much better this year.

I would imagine that Plato brought enough budget to run his car, pay his salary and have a little left over for accident damage.

Let's assume that running the car costs £10k per race weekend, tyres are a further £2k per race weekend, and the engine costs £60k per season. Add on a bit of testing, and JP's salary of £250k, and suddenly you're not getting a lot left over from Adrian Flux's half a million.

Turning a shell into a race car is not a cheap job: It requires hundreds of man hours of work and will cost tens of thousands of pounds.

peebee2 · 9 Feb 2018, 22:04 (Ref:3800097)

You reckon you can prep the car, fund your workshop, take the trucks and equipment to the circuit, pay your staff and pay their travel, accommodation and feed everyone for £10k per car?? !!! Not to mention buying and maintaining all the kit in the first place!

swooshiain · 9 Feb 2018, 22:10 (Ref:3800099)

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Originally Posted by Ry44

Norlin 2nd driver announcement will be tomorrow morning at 11.00 am

https://twitter.com/samtordoff/statu...42618438983682

dont suppose they could be linked in any way ?

Interestingly, he flat out said "No" to someone who suggested he was going to TD, so I guess that puts that line of speculation to bed.

btccbloke · 9 Feb 2018, 22:17 (Ref:3800101)

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Originally Posted by swooshiain

Interestingly, he flat out said "No" to someone who suggested he was going to TD, so I guess that puts that line of speculation to bed.

he also gave a like to the "motorbase ford" suggestion... read into it what you may

Dudley · 9 Feb 2018, 22:26 (Ref:3800109)

Maybe Motorbase tapped him in case/because Matt's off.

MattUpson · 10 Feb 2018, 09:37 (Ref:3800196)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

I would imagine that Plato brought enough budget to run his car, pay his salary and have a little left over for accident damage.

Let's assume that running the car costs £10k per race weekend, tyres are a further £2k per race weekend, and the engine costs £60k per season. Add on a bit of testing, and JP's salary of £250k, and suddenly you're not getting a lot left over from Adrian Flux's half a million.

Turning a shell into a race car is not a cheap job: It requires hundreds of man hours of work and will cost tens of thousands of pounds.

I'm afraid you are WELL off there my friend...

RS67 · 10 Feb 2018, 10:07 (Ref:3800203)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

I would imagine that Plato brought enough budget to run his car, pay his salary and have a little left over for accident

They team didn't even have the budget to do much in t he way of preseason testing. Some of the independent teams carried out more testing. They should consider themselves very, very fortunate that Sutton got the car hooked up and won.

btccbloke · 10 Feb 2018, 10:53 (Ref:3800216)

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Originally Posted by RS67

They team didn't even have the budget to do much in t he way of preseason testing. Some of the independent teams carried out more testing. They should consider themselves very, very fortunate that Sutton got the car hooked up and won.

Agreed, if Sutton was also spending the year scrapping around for 10th and 11th places most of the time I don't think we would be seeing Subaru, BMR or Plato in 2018

thlbtcc · 10 Feb 2018, 10:55 (Ref:3800217)

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Originally Posted by MattUpson

I'm afraid you are WELL off there my friend...

It was clearly labelled an assumption...

Ry44 · 10 Feb 2018, 10:59 (Ref:3800219)

http://www.btcc.net/2018/02/10/norlin-signs-nash/

James Nash for Norlin

thlbtcc · 10 Feb 2018, 11:00 (Ref:3800220)

Great signing.

High street team sponsor too.

jsmee · 10 Feb 2018, 11:04 (Ref:3800221)

Very impressive signing. Bit of a coup for Norlin. Pretty sure some other teams may b a bit jealous.

Also impressive sponsor on board for Norlin, The Range. With retailers struggling as they are currently, a very impressive step for them but again a credit to the BTCC.

Liquoriceman · 10 Feb 2018, 11:20 (Ref:3800229)

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Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Great signing.

High street team sponsor too.

About right for the team. I suspect that the TD opportunity has caused some ripples through the driver market since the announcement.

Haven't I seen The Range sponsor someone in the Clio's in recent years? Be interesting to see if the smart plain grey/pink livery changes too?

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jsmee · 10 Feb 2018, 11:28 (Ref:3800231)

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Originally Posted by Liquoriceman

Haven't I seen The Range sponsor someone in the Clio's in recent years?

No, that would be Range Storage, sponsor of Lee Pattison. It may actually be his oen company... different to The Range though.

mark_l · 10 Feb 2018, 11:33 (Ref:3800232)

I did originally have Nash as driving a Honda, I just got the team wrong.

luckn002 · 10 Feb 2018, 11:33 (Ref:3800233)

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Originally Posted by Ry44

http://www.btcc.net/2018/02/10/norlin-signs-nash/

James Nash for Norlin

👍🏼 Echo previous comments!

"Next driver announcement is currently due early next week.... #BTCC" - Matt Salisbury

luckn002 · 10 Feb 2018, 11:34 (Ref:3800234)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

I did originally have Nash as driving a Honda, I just got the team wrong.

That's another point... Nash was down for the Dynamics seat for a lot of us...

peebee2 · 10 Feb 2018, 11:39 (Ref:3800236)

Has always had to be Jackson or Tordoff surely?

850Estate · 10 Feb 2018, 11:41 (Ref:3800237)

That's an excellent bit of business by Norlin getting both James Nash and the Range on board.

I have to admit, I had my doubts when I first saw the cars with such little sponsorship last year - but they really did look a professional outfit, and both drivers scored well for a team debuting in older machinery. Wins have to be the target this year - and with Nash and a Type-R I doubt many of us would bet against them.

Suspect this time next week an awful lot more will be clearer too...

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