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Formula 1 has been guilty of precisely the same thing - putting TV ratings and timings first by allowing the race to continue. He was clearly treated in a hurried way and that may've worsened the injuries, especially the spinal ones.
Questions need to be answered - the race officials have responded in a very cynical, closed-rank way - saying "it could've happened anywhere in tehe world" is utter rubbish - no other circuit in the world has concrete walls this close to the track at fast sections. |
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Well if anything is right, then they should have redflagged the race.
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8 Apr 2003, 11:31 (Ref:562661) | #53 | ||
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Slight update on the Motograndprix site.
Katoh is doing a bit better. Not great news but it could perhaps be good news on the long run. |
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I read the same thing Winther. Apparently his blood pressure has normalised, which means his chances of survival have increased slightly, but they say he's far from out of the woods.
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I think he deserves a life, even in a wheelchair with no movement if that is the case. At least he can watch his daughter grow up... I REALLY hope he pulls through.
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I'm not sure about the thing about concrete walls and straights. I thing it's better to have a near concrete wall (in a straight) than a wall slightly removed, but not too far, because with a near wall the angle of impact is relatively shallow (as in ovals). Obviously the best solution would be to take walls far away and some gravel traps, but I think we have some F1 tracks with solid walls near the track (Interlagos?, Montreal?,...). I think they (riders/drivers/FIA/FIM) allow it for that reason. Sadly here we got a very nasty accident and it must be evaluated before to do a wrong movement.
Actually I got really scared when I saw Cechinello's cuasi accident in the last lap. That Armco barrier was absolutely awful there: I was wondering what had happened if the driver had crash into its cutting edge. Shadows of past gruesome accidents came to my mind In other side of things, I have the feel that perhaps those formidable MotoGP bikes are becoming to brutal to control. Many incidents, and many cuasi incidents... It reminds me of Group B(?) rally cars... I love to see those beasts but I'm frightened bad things can go on in the future. |
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Yeah the increased weight must propel these monsters some more than the old 500's did.
And they have increased speed now. |
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Whether he lives or not; as far as I can see this is the worst motorsport tragedy since Sennas crash. I looked on that link at the crash photos.....that is really horrible. Personally I hope he survives whatever state he ends up in; surely that has to be better than dying?
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lets not get into a dutch auction on this. We should concentrate on poor Dajiros condition.
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8 Apr 2003, 20:30 (Ref:563204) | #62 | ||
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Winther, Boots, calm down... Good lord, you sound like the Italian prosecutors... "Someone must be responsible!"
Sh*t happens. We can only try and decrease that risk, it can never be removed totally. It's this sort of narrow-minded, all-or-nothing thinking which will be the downfall of civilization. Use some damn common sense, nothing and no one is all wrong or all right. Like I said, people who use tragedy to forward their own agendas make me violently ill. |
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Well someone is responsible!
It is a highrisk sport, but that wall is too close and the handling was not very good from the officials. I am not having any agenda, I just did not like what I saw very much! The race should have been stopped, but that is in the past now....nothing can be done anymore. It is just an awfully shame that this happend. Sorry for the outbursts. |
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Well, let's hope the best- whatever this would be...
I am so sorry for his two little kids... |
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(Relatively) good news:
I've just heard Sete Gibernau talking on radio and he said he recently talked with people in the hospital and the doctors don't know for sure if Kato's spinal cord is cutted or not, and It is not sure if he is going to be quadraplegic (if he survive). I pray for he can survive and do a normal life. My wild dream is he can ride a motorcycle one day (because I think it would be important for him). Those Suzuka's images still haunt me... |
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People, can we please stop the comparison of accidents. It's a rather sad topic as it is, and comparing this incident to others and saying 'This one is worse' is just not on. This thread is simply to bring any good news about Kato, or if the unfortunate happens, send condolensces. If you want to discuss the safety of the Suzuka circuit or anything else within reason, by all means start another thread. |
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well said f1manoz.
lets hope those encouraging signs continue. |
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I'm sure it's been mentioned before (I don't really post in the bike forum because I don't really know much about bikes) but I was watching the race on Sunday and it was GLARINGLY OBVIOUS that this was a serious accident and that Kato was in a bad shape. WHY wasn't the red flag thrown??
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Kato's life 'no longer in danger' MotoGP rider Daijiro Kato has shown some improvement following his crash in Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix. The 26-year-old Honda rider remains in a coma but his condition is said to be stable. "He remains unconscious but he is in a condition which is not expected to become life-threatening," a Honda spokesman said on Wednesday. Kato, the 2001 250cc world champion, suffered serious injuries to the head, chest and neck when he was thrown off his bike after hitting a tyre barrier at Suzuka. His father was quoted in a Japanese newspaper as saying that the rider's condition was improving. "His blood pressure rose as high as 150 and his pulse as high as 100. If he keeps on improving at this rate, blood will begin circulating in the damaged part of the head," Takashi Kato told Tokyo Chunichi Sports. The Telefonica Movistar Honda team will take part in the second round of the MotoGP championship in South Africa despite the accident to Kato. "This is a very difficult moment for the whole team," said Kato's team-mate Sebe Gibernau. "I know Dai very well, because we spent lots of time together last winter and I am sure that, if only he could tell us something, he would tell us to go and race at Welkom and to do our best. "I believe the best way to give him our support right now is to keep on going forward, never give up and stay close to each other." "We all keep on praying for Daijiro, it is the only thing we can do now," added Honda team manager Fausto Gresini. |
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Great news, now let's see what his condition is. I hope the spinal cord is not cut....
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His life is not in danger anymore.
may I simply say THANK GOD. |
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