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Old 23 May 2013, 20:08 (Ref:3252319)   #51
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I've got to say, I barely notice the fin anymore.
I agree. And before the fin it was the narrower rear wing we complained about. I will miss the spiders, I enjoy the diversity between coupe and open cockpits. Especially for identifying drivers.
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Old 23 May 2013, 20:09 (Ref:3252320)   #52
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Same. I don't see why people are ragging on the looks of the car. It's firmly built to the regs. Just be happy the design has been done!
Agree!
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Old 23 May 2013, 20:40 (Ref:3252344)   #53
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I think people (at least in my case) are ragging about the less then aesthetically pleasing aero trends and 2014 regulations.
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Old 23 May 2013, 22:10 (Ref:3252404)   #54
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IMO there are more posibilities to see flying pigs than watch that car in the WEC in 2014.....
But I'd like to be wrong
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Old 23 May 2013, 23:11 (Ref:3252447)   #55
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To me this looks similar to the recent Riley attempt to produce their LMPs, expect Riley had better credentials, and still nobody took a chance.
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Old 23 May 2013, 23:17 (Ref:3252450)   #56
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Personally I think the extended engine cover makes the fin less obtrusive from the design (looks more like the fin is intended to be there). However, I'm withholding judgment on the design until I see a real livery on this thing.
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Old 23 May 2013, 23:42 (Ref:3252458)   #57
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IMO there are more posibilities to see flying pigs than watch that car in the WEC in 2014.....
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Then it seems that the pigs need fins and fender holes.
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Old 24 May 2013, 00:26 (Ref:3252460)   #58
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Old 24 May 2013, 01:37 (Ref:3252483)   #59
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Old 24 May 2013, 09:55 (Ref:3252575)   #60
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Personally I think the extended engine cover makes the fin less obtrusive from the design (looks more like the fin is intended to be there). However, I'm withholding judgment on the design until I see a real livery on this thing.
Agreed, althoough the engine cover itself kinda makes it look awkward. That area reminds me of Kremer Porsche 962 K8 with its dorsal fin.
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Old 24 May 2013, 10:49 (Ref:3252586)   #61
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Good to see a car almost ready for next year, If they would stand a small chance against the factory teams, probably not.
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Old 24 May 2013, 13:55 (Ref:3252655)   #62
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I think people (at least in my case) are ragging about the less then aesthetically pleasing aero trends and 2014 regulations.
LOL... aesthetics...

What is aesthetically-pleasing is different for every individual. Case in point - the Porsche piglet!

I do have one worry about the future of LMP1 though, aesthetically - I want to keep the diversity. Keep a few open-top cars on the racetrack - we're now down to only two... the Muscle Milk HPD and the Strakka HPD.
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Old 24 May 2013, 14:08 (Ref:3252661)   #63
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I do have one worry about the future of LMP1 though, aesthetically - I want to keep the diversity. Keep a few open-top cars on the racetrack - we're now down to only two... the Muscle Milk HPD and the Strakka HPD.
Enjoy them while they last.
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Old 24 May 2013, 15:51 (Ref:3252701)   #64
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Looks like there is quite a bit of Pescarolo 03 influence in the shape of the long rear fenders...
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Old 24 May 2013, 17:39 (Ref:3252738)   #65
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I thought the same after writting my line
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Old 24 May 2013, 17:39 (Ref:3252739)   #66
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I've got to say, I barely notice the fin anymore.
Agreed. Deal with it......
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Old 24 May 2013, 20:55 (Ref:3252817)   #67
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Good to see a car almost ready for next year
Oh , like the P2 Snobeck displayed at Le Mans a few years ago ..... and the Bailey . Nothing happened racewise anyway .
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Old 24 May 2013, 21:13 (Ref:3252831)   #68
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Good to see a car almost ready for next year, If they would stand a small chance against the factory teams, probably not.
Almost ready for next year...
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Oh , like the P2 Snobeck displayed at Le Mans a few years ago ..... and the Bailey . Nothing happened racewise anyway .
True - this is a lot less ready than either of those two...

That said, for something to reach the grid there probably has to be an array of efforts that don't make it - efforts that teach people what not to do, that give engineers experience in figuring what to do, that give suppliers a stream of work that keep them going.

In that light it's great to see the Perrin, even it all it does directly is to feature in the list of sportscars that never raced; and if it does more, gets to the stage of say the Bailey, or even rolls around like the Protran of 2006, or Lavaggi of 2007, or Euzkadi of 2008 then if I'm lucky enough to see it I'll cheer and smile in just the same way I cheered for those cars.
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That Euskadi was a nice lookin car ..... shame they didn't have enough to see that chassis work .
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I like coupes. In my eyes the Audi looks nothing like the Toyota, nor the 908, nor the Lola. Its just a closed cockpit but you clearly see the differences. Next year I bet they will be even more different, and hopefully someone uses this perrinn.
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I like coupes. In my eyes the Audi looks nothing like the Toyota, nor the 908, nor the Lola. Its just a closed cockpit but you clearly see the differences. Next year I bet they will be even more different, and hopefully someone uses this perrinn.
Yeah, that's true. Someone could always pick up the design and run with it (which the permission of the designers, of course!). That almost happened with the Peugeot 908 Hybrid 4 if I'm not mistaken?
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Porsche museum, Stuttgart. My photo of it, last summer:

Thanks a lot, that looks like an awesome museum!


I like having both coupes and roadsters in LMP1, it's cool having the variety.
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