[Official] Hungarian Grand Prix 2018: Grand Prix Weekend Thread

[F1Guy]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

The answer has already been posted.

What you believe to be "the answer" may not actually be the right answer. There's discussion in the paddock about why Ferrari are doing what all teams consider to be something strange. And this being a discussion forum, I would think it would be open to further discussion without you feeling the need to put someone down because there might actually be another "answer" to the question.

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

No need to pretend there's a secret source.

Not really, no 'secret sauce'. I have mentioned their names before, being Tom, and also Barb. And on occasion, my Asian contacts Hoi and Soy

I was just merely mentioning that there's speculation as to why Ferrari are doing something unusual with the FOM camera that every other team isn't doing, and find strange.

On to why Ferrari are using a dry ice bag (that does not have dry ice in it) on top of the FOM camera, it is rumoured Ferrari could be covering the camera lens so as that it does not record video of the steering wheel and/or the data screens in front of the driver while in the garage/grid. Seems as though they don't want some sensitive information to be revealed via the FOM camera.

That is what the speculation is. And this being a discussion forum, I would think it's worthy of discussion. Yes, it's just speculation ATM, but that does not mean you think it not worthy of discussion because you have found your "answer". If you have "the answer", good for you. Stay out of the discussion and don't post your opinion on the matter. But let others discuss it as they wish.


Roll on the race!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

There are a couple of stories in the paddock on why Ferrari are covering the FOM camera. Waiting on more reliable sources.

What makes a more reliable source then?

You say there are stories, but won't tell us who from. To an observer, the only source of the stories at the moment appears to be in this thread?

[Armco Bender]

Great GP2 race yesterday,they were doing some amazing things called "passing" and "racing".....maybe F1 could look into trying this?.

[Akrapovic]

There's plenty of stories in the paddock. Eddie Jordan is there.

It's not a coincidence the conspiracy being spun and inside information is about a Ferrari.

SkyF1 is a good reliable source.

[F1Guy]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

SkyF1 is a good reliable source.

Ok then. About the only thing I can post here from Sky Sports F1 is a link to FP2 coverage from Hungary. I have asked permission from the Mod's to post a link as it maybe a copyright issue. I haven't got a reply as yet, but I'll post it anyway before the race begins. Mod's please delete if not allowed.

FF to 30:00 minutes into THIS video. Ted Kravitz, David Croft and Paul di Resta talking about why Ferrari maybe obstructing the FOM camera.

That may or may not be the "answer" you're looking for. As previously you were happy to except an "answer" with nothing to back up the claims. I have at least posted somewhat of a link to back up the speculation. And it's just that. Speculation at this point. If Ferrari's onboard FOM camera is getting that hot that it needs dry ice to cool it down, it won't be too long before it overheats and smoke will appear. And you know what they say about 'where there's smoke.... But I'm sure the FiA will swiftly put out the fire with their special Ferrari spec extinguishers.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by F1Guy

If Ferrari's onboard FOM camera is getting that hot that it needs dry ice to cool it down, it won't be too long before it overheats and smoke will appear.

I assume now that you're actually taking the mick. I have a mobile phone that gets too hot and shuts off. It doesn't produce smoke. This sort of stringing things together is a perfect example of a "little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and how mad videos on 9-11 jet fuel/melting steal get produced. I suggest less conspiracy and agenda pushing.

[bjohnsonsmith]

A very clean and uneventful start.

[ASCII Man]

God, this is boring...


Think I might do some gardening.

[Articus]

Raikkonen and Bottas are so useless compared to Hamilton and Vettel....

How Raikkonen got passed on ultrasofts….You can sense Vettel just driving around him in annoyance. And that Bottas has dropped 10 seconds to Hamilton on the same strategy and tires. And practically getting overcut by Vettel on older tires....

I don't know why Bottas got a new contract other than to be a #2 driver...Bring on Le Clercat Ferrari...

[bjohnsonsmith]

They made a bit of a hash with Vettel's stop.

[EffectiveSprinkles]

Originally Posted by Articus

I don't know why Bottas got a new contract other than to be a #2 driver...

I think you got your answer there. He's basically a good enough roadblock.

[insane014]

Good job Renault and STR! You just let both of McLarens in front of you for changing tires too quickly.

Is it really hard for teams to take a note that in Hungary you have to stay as long as you can if you are in tight midfield.

[ASCII Man]

Bottas tried to take out Vettel there, what a team player.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Vettel connects with Bottas, removing Bottas's right front end-plate.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Bottas connects with Ricciardo at Turn 2, sending Ricciardo onto the run off.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Lulu wins, with a 25 point lead over Vettee.

[EffectiveSprinkles]

I won't say the championship is over but this has shades of 2017 all over again. This time it's Ferrari and Vettel's own doing with mishaps and not capitalizing.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by EffectiveSprinkles

I won't say the championship is over but this has shades of 2017 all over again. This time it's Ferrari and Vettel's own doing with mishaps and not capitalizing.

In my opinion that's why they lost out last year. And last year Mercedes actually had the quickest car.

The cars are far more even this year and the Ferrari seems to be a better race car on most of the tracks. I think this is far from over.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by EffectiveSprinkles

I won't say the championship is over but this has shades of 2017 all over again. This time it's Ferrari and Vettel's own doing with mishaps and not capitalizing.

It was in 2012, after the Hungarian GP, that Alonso was leading the WDC with a 42 point lead over Vettel, who was third and Vettel went on to win the championship. Hamilton won Hungary in 2012, after taking pole.

[ASCII Man]

Bottas blaming Ricciardo for the crash too, what a pathetic little delusional *******.

[TrapezeArtist]

Am I the only one who is getting fed up with Red Bull blaming Renault for everything? When they were winning it was all down to their superb chassis. Now they're losing, it's all Renault's fault.

They bleat on every time about being massively down on power, but they only look a little bit down to me. Amongst the Top Three, they are way behind Mercedes and Ferrari. Yet lower down the scale, the Renault-engined cars are able to mix it with the Merc and Ferrari engines.

I don't have the detailed statistics, but I get the impression that their engine reliability is worse than the other Renault-engined cars. If I'm right, then either they're very unlucky, or there's a problem with their installation (rather like seems to have been the case with McLaren and Honda last year).

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

Am I the only one who is getting fed up with Red Bull blaming Renault for everything? When they were winning it was all down to their superb chassis. Now they're losing, it's all Renault's fault.

They bleat on every time about being massively down on power, but they only look a little bit down to me. Amongst the Top Three, they are way behind Mercedes and Ferrari. Yet lower down the scale, the Renault-engined cars are able to mix it with the Merc and Ferrari engines.

I don't have the detailed statistics, but I get the impression that their engine reliability is worse than the other Renault-engined cars. If I'm right, then either they're very unlucky, or there's a problem with their installation (rather like seems to have been the case with McLaren and Honda last year).

I'm not too sure I follow you. You initially say you're fed up with Red Bull blaming Renault for everything but in the last paragraph say, you get the impression that their engine reliability is worse than the other Renault engined cars.

[S griffin]

Bit of interest in this race, mainly concerning Bottas. Both incidents were his fault, although you could argue Vettel could do with being more careful around the team mate of his title rival.

Great recovery by Danny, shame yet more unreliability, the 4th race in a row did it for Max. Gasly’s decent performance might help them have some hope for 2019, just needs more power from the Honda engine

Shame for Vandoorne, he was running close to Fred and then that came to naught

[Razzzor]

How about Daniel saying he hates F1 during the endless pre and post race coverage? Not twisting his words either, the good looking bird forget her name asked something like what he thinks about F1 at the moment and his reply was I hate it. Dans overall mood after quali was really not himself, he's not happy at the moment. Will he resign with the RB Honda?


Yeah both incidents were Bottas' fault but I thought initially Seb WTF are you turning in for, there goes the back tyre and another 25 points to Hamilton championship over. Lucky he didn't get puncture. There's no way he's at fault though - Martin Brundle what race are you watching? Seb was 95% ahead, Bottas went for a closed gap, locked up, hit the kerb and bounced over into Seb. If Seb did get a puncture or spin, Bottas would have been penalised. He should also be penalised for crashing into the side of Dan... that's avoidable contact isn't it? But I suppose since Dan got the position they let Bottas away with it.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Razzzor

How about Daniel saying he hates F1 during the endless pre and post race coverage? Not twisting his words either, the good looking bird forget her name asked something like what he thinks about F1 at the moment and his reply was I hate it. Dans overall mood after quali was really not himself, he's not happy at the moment. Will he resign with the RB Honda?


Yeah both incidents were Bottas' fault but I thought initially Seb WTF are you turning in for, there goes the back tyre and another 25 points to Hamilton championship over. Lucky he didn't get puncture. There's no way he's at fault though - Martin Brundle what race are you watching? Seb was 95% ahead, Bottas went for a closed gap, locked up, hit the kerb and bounced over into Seb. If Seb did get a puncture or spin, Bottas would have been penalised. He should also be penalised for crashing into the side of Dan... that's avoidable contact isn't it? But I suppose since Dan got the position they let Bottas away with it.

Bottas has been penalised.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/b...clash-1065787/