GP2 Series 2009 - Portimao

[Peat]

So, final 2 rounds of the year. Not alot to play for anymore, but what a circuit to have the 'end of term' mess around!!!!!

Feature Race is at 2pm this afternoon:

GRID
Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1. Vitaly Petrov Addax 1m30.819s
2. Dani Clos Racing Engineering 1m30.859s + 0.040s
3. Nico Hulkenberg ART 1m30.884s + 0.065s
4. Lucas di Grassi Racing Engineering 1m31.067s + 0.248s
5. Davide Valsecchi Addax 1m31.129s + 0.310s
6. Roldan Rodriguez Piquet 1m31.389s + 0.570s
7. Alberto Valerio Piquet 1m31.418s + 0.599s
8. Pastor Maldonado ART 1m31.449s + 0.630s
9. Giedo van der Garde iSport 1m31.532s + 0.713s
10. Diego Nunes iSport 1m31.569s + 0.750s
11. Jerome d'Ambrosio DAMS 1m31.601s + 0.782s
12. Andreas Zuber Coloni 1m31.673s + 0.854s
13. Luca Filippi Super Nova 1m31.764s + 0.945s
14. Javier Villa Super Nova 1m31.812s + 0.993s
15. Sergio Perez Arden 1m31.886s + 1.067s
16. Luiz Razia Coloni 1m32.140s + 1.321s
17. Davide Rigon Trident 1m32.165s + 1.346s
18. Kamui Kobayashi DAMS 1m32.183s + 1.364s
19. Michael Herck DPR 1m32.376s + 1.557s
20 Edoardo Mortara Arden 1m32.807s + 1.988s
21. Karun Chandhok Ocean 1m32.765s + 1.946s
22. Johnny Cecotto DPR 1m32.807s + 1.988s
23. Ricardo Teixeira Trident 1m34.083s + 3.264s
24. Alvaro Parente Ocean

[chunterer]

Um, why are Brit Eurosport showing today's race live and not tomorrow's?

Can't even see any listing for tomorrow's!

[Last2LiftOff]

What time is the race?

[Peat]

Tomorrows will be delayed at 3pm or 6:45pm by the looks of things...

Todays is in 5 mins time Last2Liftoff!

[Last2LiftOff]

Yes, got that, thanks Peat.

[Satorian]

I think it might already be time to give Hülkenberg the name of TOGF: That Other German Fellow.

Can't wait for him to get into F1 and secure a place at a proper team. Second seat at a Mercedes-led Brawn would be nice for example.

[Mekola]

Herck finished (6th!) but was disqualified; Rigon, Teixeira, D'Ambrosio and Van der Garde were penalized by 25sec or dropping five positions from tomorrow's race.

[Mekola]

Just saw the race. The Hulk won in class!!! Petrov did what he can but he didn't catch better than 4th. Shame that Pérez and Parente clashed when both could have finished on points.

[ivanalesi]

I was just going to pick Herck's drive as the surprise of the year and he got disqualified for ride height.
It was very entertaining race(beside Hulkenberg dominating like in A1 GP) and I like this track with all the elevation changes.

[Mekola]

Originally Posted by ivanalesi

I was just going to pick Herck's drive as the surprise of the year and he got disqualified for ride height.

His weekend finished poorly after he smashed onto Petrov's car back at the start of second race. Herck was shocked by the incident and had to leave the track by ambulance. This incident red-flagged the event for a few minutes and the race had to finish by time.

At the restart, when Safety Car entered into the pits, Zuber and some of his followers (including Valsecchi, Di Grassi and both ART cars) pushed their throttles before starting line; this headed for a drive-thru penalisation for all them, giving the first place in silver plate to Luca Filippi.

The Italian finally conquered a win this year, followed by Pérez and Villa in the podium.

[Adri_tifosi]

Some link ?

EDIT:

http://www.p2pstation.net/

[Adri_tifosi]

Originally Posted by Adri_tifosi

Some link ?

EDIT:

http://www.p2pstation.net/

New link , because these is out.

http://es.justin.tv/brujita_deprimera26

[Peat]

That restart was a mess. How did they define who to penalise??

Zuber should have been the only one. What are the rest gonna do? brake??? So stupid. There was a simular situation in A1GP at Portimao earlier this year to, the leader went too early and came across the SC, but in that instance, he braked and caused chaos behind him.

And another thing - Petrov. He must be the oldest guy out there and all you ever seem to see is his bloody mum! She is always screaming and shouting, and today running uncontrolled around the pitlane after his shunt. He's 25 for god's sake! STOP THE BREAST FEEDING ALREADY!

too much?

[sauber11]

And another thing - Petrov. He must be the oldest guy out there and all you ever seem to see is his bloody mum!

She is his manager , not mum )))
But partly agreed , this is looking so funny\stupid .

[ivanalesi]

What a rollercoster weekend for Herck, from the high of pts finish to DSQ and now this crash. Any news on him?
I think he had the same crash in Hockenheim 2006 with F3ES.
Again the penalties were stupid. You have to rely on the leader for the restart, if the leader misjudges the situation, then you're just a victim. I can't see how the 5th placed driver will know that the SC is still out!?

[runshaw]

Originally Posted by sauber11

She is his manager , not mum )))
But partly agreed , this is looking so funny\stupid .

It is his mum; she doubles up as his manager.

[ivanalesi]

I think Zuber didn't take into account that the last corners are very, very fast and he'll be much faster than the SC. But anyway, this Wiesman was quite slow.

[ghinzani]

Originally Posted by runshaw

It is his mum; she doubles up as his manager.

Now I was of a mind that she was Vitalys bird a few months ago but was told she was his manager, but said at the time she looks old enough to be his Mum. Graphic example that CCCP chicks dont age well, all ending up looking like Leonid Brezhnev. And to add further insult to injury she could be all 3 for all we know!

[bradrive]

Originally Posted by ghinzani

Now I was of a mind that she was Vitalys bird a few months ago but was told she was his manager, but said at the time she looks old enough to be his Mum. Graphic example that CCCP chicks dont age well, all ending up looking like Leonid Brezhnev. And to add further insult to injury she could be all 3 for all we know!

She is Vitaly s manager and nothing else...and she is good at her job...and she brings some passion and emotions to gp2, which does hurt nobody in the paddock, where everybody takes everything too seriously...end of story.

[cg7aa]

Originally Posted by ghinzani

... And to add further insult to injury she could be all 3 for all we know!

She seems to attract a bit of airtime for some reason. It doesn't seem to matter what circuit or country we are in, there is bound to be a glimpse of her. Does GP2 use a permanent camera crew? I wonder if one of said crew has taken a shine to her. I always thought she was her mother.

As for the criticism (if I can call it that) of her seemingly mothering Vitaly, I think it is a tad harsh. A case of cultural relativism maybe; what may seem like an over-reaction to some is perfectly natural for others. In any case, she is his mother (apparently), she is bound to have all sorts emotions seeing someone pile into the back of her son's car or seeing her son’s championship hopes go up in engine smoke.

Anyway, this is all trivial.

Just how good did the cars look popping over the crest like that? They seemed to be riding very low. I thought they looked fabulous personally.

The Eurosport stand-in commentators were tolerable too I thought. Tony Carter at least looked like he either vaguely followed the series or he had bothered to learn the drivers names. He did well to identify the cars correctly most of the time. Not bad.

[Spudy]

Originally Posted by cg7aa

She seems to attract a bit of airtime for some reason. It doesn't seem to matter what circuit or country we are in, there is bound to be a glimpse of her. Does GP2 use a permanent camera crew? I wonder if one of said crew has taken a shine to her. I always thought she was her mother.

As for the criticism (if I can call it that) of her seemingly mothering Vitaly, I think it is a tad harsh. A case of cultural relativism maybe; what may seem like an over-reaction to some is perfectly natural for others. In any case, she is his mother (apparently), she is bound to have all sorts emotions seeing someone pile into the back of her son's car or seeing her son’s championship hopes go up in engine smoke.

Anyway, this is all trivial.

Just how good did the cars look popping over the crest like that? They seemed to be riding very low. I thought they looked fabulous personally.

The Eurosport stand-in commentators were tolerable too I thought. Tony Carter at least looked like he either vaguely followed the series or he had bothered to learn the drivers names. He did well to identify the cars correctly most of the time. Not bad.

FOM handle all GP2 TV coverage just like F1 as the same comapny owns the rights.

Vitaly's Manager is featured on the TV so much she won an award at the end of season GP2 awards for most featured on the TV! lol

What the hell was she wearing on the grid for the feature race at Monza!! It appeared to be a flesh coloured night slip, which went see through when it rained! hahaha

[kerrmanningjarv]

The GP2 stewards have way too much time on their hands, I think pretty much every race this year has seen some sort of penalty.

[bella]

and also pretty much every driver.

i think it's di grassi who says on his twitter that the penalties for the safety car were nonsense, and that it was an error by the safety car driver rather than the drivers. can anyone who has managed to watch the race agree or disagree with that, or did the leader himself misjudge it?

[Peat]

The SC did seem to be entering the pits extraodrinarilly slowy i must say. But whats Zuber to do? Hit the brakes and send 2 or 3 cars behind cartwheeling into the (albiet EMPTY!) grandstands?

[the sniper]

Originally Posted by Peat

But whats Zuber to do? Hit the brakes and send 2 or 3 cars behind cartwheeling into the (albiet EMPTY!) grandstands?

I can understand Zuber's penalty, even though the safety car was as much to blame as him, but what I can't understand are the penalties for Valsecchi, Kobayashi, di Grassi, Hulkenberg, Maldonado and Perez; what were they supposed to do? When the car in front goes, you go. If any of them had breaked, there inevitably would have been a massive crash.

Also, di Grassi actually appeared to slow, which resulted in him being passed by Kobayashi, so he should definitly have avoided a penalty as he atleast attempted to be cautious...