Asian Le Mans Series - Page 4

R4z3rw33n · 30 Oct 2010, 17:15 (Ref:2782606)

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Originally Posted by joeb

If they weren't going to field gt500 cars, nissan may be able to make a gt1 gtr into gt2 spec, and toyota may have something they can do with the LFA, don't know what honda would do though.

They all have engines eligible for LMP competition next year, what's stopping them from utilising customer efforts?
While the option may not be as enticing for Honda/Nissan (with P2 lacking a manufacturers title and all), Toyota could do a lot worse than Rebellion for representation.

Unfortunately Toyota's conservative approach to motorsport as of late might render that too optimistic a prediction.

JAG · 30 Oct 2010, 17:54 (Ref:2782621)

Is there an Asian LMS outside of the Fuji and Zhuhai ILMC rounds?

So far it's known GT500 engines can be used in P1.

A version of Nissans GT500 engine is being developed for P2.

Honda/Acura have P1 and P2 engines.

There's been talk of the GT1 Nissan GT-R being converted to GTE spec.

A version of the LFA has competed in the Nurburgring 24hrs.

What if GT300 is moving to ACO GTE regs so the Japanease cars can compete worldwide?

Speed-King · 30 Oct 2010, 18:29 (Ref:2782641)

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What if GT300 is moving to ACO GTE regs so the Japanease cars can compete worldwide?

They've only recently announced that they wouldn't accept any new GT2-cars into GT300 and that cars wishing to compete according to European regulations must be GT3s. Until this season there actually was an equivalency formula between GT300 and GT2 in place, but that's history now.

I think Honda being among the manufacturers that wants to have a GT-effort in AsLMS, really points towards a GT500-campaign, as they don't have any roadcars that could be turned into a GT-racer.

(But then that didn't bother Panoz, either, so maybe they actually could build a GTE HSV, but I doubt it)

JAG · 30 Oct 2010, 20:10 (Ref:2782678)

DSC say the cars will be ACO spec so it's a real mystery.

Are the ACO and current competitors willing to relax the rules to allow more US and Japanease manufactuers in?

The Badger · 30 Oct 2010, 20:13 (Ref:2782680)

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Originally Posted by JAG

What if GT300 is moving to ACO GTE regs so the Japanease cars can compete worldwide?

Bring it on , thats what we need all around . Be great to see some top Asian teams come and do Le mans , the odd LMS & ALMS round ..... keep the rest of'em honest .

Simmi · 30 Oct 2010, 21:04 (Ref:2782695)

I refuse to get too excited about this until anything actually happens. But it would be great. It is a shame almost that they look to have decided to gravitate to what is already the strongest class. Obviously it could mean mind blowing levels of competition but I would really love to see the Japanese manufacturers throwing some weight behind LMPs and showcase some alternative technologies and things like that. That would really put sportscar racing on the map.

It's fair to say Toyota have unfinished business with Le Mans like no other manufacturer.

TF110 · 1 Nov 2010, 02:43 (Ref:2783209)

The GT-One was a race winner, just didn't win, tires, drivers etc.

If they run the GT500 cars, they could drop weight and beat LMP2 cars. That wouldn't fly well with the ACO. Or they could gain a bit of weight and keep about the same power and beat the GTE's, that won't fly too well either. They're obviously superior cars to LeMans style GT's. The only thing that is stopping them is rules and regs. Carbon chassis's, race derived engines, bodywork as well...

Fogelhund · 1 Nov 2010, 15:06 (Ref:2783479)

I don't believe that the GT300 category is that different in performance to the ACO GT2 class. I wonder how similar the regulations are, and how these cars are prepared.

http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/10te...ex_e003.htm?tm

http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/10te...ex_e019.htm?tm

http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/10te...ex_e046.htm?tm

Deleted · 1 Nov 2010, 15:40 (Ref:2783492)

Well... just compare ther fastest qualifying lap times from Okayama last year (2009 Super GT season opener and 2009 AsLMS race)

LMP1 - 1:19.143
LMP2 - 1:23.790
GT500 - 1:24.069
LMGT1 - 1:29.827
LMGT2 - 1:30.847
GT300 - 1:31.860

Japanese Samurai · 1 Nov 2010, 15:53 (Ref:2783497)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

I don't believe that the GT300 category is that different in performance to the ACO GT2 class. I wonder how similar the regulations are, and how these cars are prepared.

Perhaps, there is no Japanese motor sports fan that knows the regulation of the GT300 class accurately.

The car that completely suits the regulation of JAF-GT300 is only 350Z!
Other cars have been obtaining some special permission instead of installing the handicap weight.
The performance tuning of the JAF-GT300 vehicle and the FIA-GT2/3 vehicle is performed with the weight handicap and the air restrictor.
In general, a straight speed of the FIA-GT2/3 vehicle is faster, and the cornering speed of the JAF-GT300 vehicle is faster.
It takes time to refuel the FIA-GT2/3 vehicle compared with the JAF-GT300 vehicle.

Speed-King · 1 Nov 2010, 15:56 (Ref:2783500)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

I don't believe that the GT300 category is that different in performance to the ACO GT2 class. I wonder how similar the regulations are, and how these cars are prepared.

http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/10te...ex_e003.htm?tm

http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/10te...ex_e019.htm?tm

http://supergt.net/supergt/2010/10te...ex_e046.htm?tm

The Lexus is a mid-engined tubeframe silhouette...

Speedhunters had a feature on the sister car some time ago: Here

JAG · 1 Nov 2010, 16:01 (Ref:2783507)

Modest road cars can be competitive in GT300 thanks to liberal chassis/aero regs and lower power outputs than GT2.

Nissan could use the 370Z but the more obvious 911/Ferrari rival is the GT-R.

Lexus have the LSF or ISF.

Honda..............?

Fogelhund · 1 Nov 2010, 16:23 (Ref:2783522)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Modest road cars can be competitive in GT300 thanks to liberal chassis/aero regs and lower power outputs than GT2.

Nissan could use the 370Z but the more obvious 911/Ferrari rival is the GT-R.

Lexus have the LSF or ISF.

Honda..............?

My point being that there was a 370Z out there competing at "near" GT2 performance, while NISMO Japan has been dead flat against building a GT-R for ACO GT2 specs for several years now.

If there is any truth to the rumour, either we are talking about utilizing existing cars that are close to GT2 specs, or building all new cars... At this point, colour me sceptical that these manufacturers are going to build all new cars.

JAG · 1 Nov 2010, 19:42 (Ref:2783660)

There was an article in Autosport a month or so back with Carlos Taveres of Nissan saying they are in discussions with the ACO about making the GT1 GT-R ACO GTE homologated.

Could be the kind of short cut needed to bring Nissan on-board.

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Le Mans generates a lot of emotion in our company. We are keeping an eye on it and would grasp an opportunity to go back if certain stars align.

**joeb** · 1 Nov 2010, 20:06 (Ref:2783677)

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Originally Posted by JAG

There was an article in Autosport a month or so back with Carlos Taveres of Nissan saying they are in discussions with the ACO about making the GT1 GT-R ACO GTE homologated.

Could be the kind of short cut needed to bring Nissan on-board.

That is sort of like what Matech said they are doing to make their GTE machine, so I guess it could be done with the Nissan as well.

gwyllion · 14 Jun 2012, 09:34 (Ref:3090609)

According to the EI facebook, the Asian Le Mans Series will be resurrect in 2013.

6 rounds, reserved for LMP2, GTE, LMPC and GTC.
Pro-am drivers of which at least 1 Asian driver in every car.
3 hour races in 2013 and 4 hour races in 2014.

johntt · 14 Jun 2012, 09:34 (Ref:3090611)

Asian Le Mans Series (beating a dead horse?)

6 races in 2013
P2, GTE, LMPC, GTC
3 hour races in first season, 4 hour races after that
At least 1 asian driver per team
Pro-Am drivers

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 09:38 (Ref:3090614)

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Originally Posted by johntt

Asian Le Mans Series (beating a dead horse?)

6 races in 2013
P2, GTE, LMPC, GTC
3 hour races in first season, 4 hour races after that
At least 1 asian driver per team
Pro-Am drivers

Well, it depends on why they do it. If Nissan and Mazda are behind it, this could actually become a success, I think.

johntt · 14 Jun 2012, 09:40 (Ref:3090619)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Well, it depends on why they do it. If Nissan and Mazda are behind it, this could actually become a success, I think.

I suppose that's true, might be the right time with greater Japanese involvement in Le Mans.

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 10:39 (Ref:3090682)

Asian Le Mans Series press release

I Rosputnik · 14 Jun 2012, 12:23 (Ref:3090799)

Think they could have an AsLMS race in Australia or New Zealand?

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 12:24 (Ref:3090800)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Think they could have an AsLMS race in Australia or New Zealand?

5-6 races in 3 countries for the first year... So Japan and China should be a given with Malaysia and Korea being options for the third...

The Badger · 14 Jun 2012, 12:26 (Ref:3090801)

Korea ..... what about Australia ?

Speed-King · 14 Jun 2012, 12:28 (Ref:3090804)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Korea ..... what about Australia ?

I *think* they'd have mentioned that. Especially with the requirement of one Asian driver per car Australia doesn't make that much sense. If Australia were to host a round, that should've been included in the driver requirement.

marcel82 · 14 Jun 2012, 12:33 (Ref:3090809)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Well, it depends on why they do it. If Nissan and Mazda are behind it, this could actually become a success, I think.

we have Toyota, Nissan, Honda (HPD) represented in this weekend's Le Mans 24hrs, which may be a good base to get teams' interest.

but... they've been trying this for a long time now, and it just doesn't seem to work for some reason.

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