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Old 2 Aug 2020, 05:11 (Ref:3992203)   #7231
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I am trying (but currently failing) not to get drawn back into this discussion. The classification of The BTCC as an Elite Sport has been made by the Government Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, so I don't think that can be referred to as 'so called' I'd say it is a bit more official than that. I don't know when that classification was announced, but as others have said above, MSV have a healthy quantity of cash sitting in their banks as a result of BTCC ticket sales for Donington alone and (I'm going to make an assumption now) I feel that may have been influencing their desire to ignore MSUK's guidance and to try and allow spectators into Donington.
Spectators who cannot now go to the circuit can at least watch the action on TV which I know isn't quite the same, but it's a reasonable replacement. My work colleague who has just been forced to cancel his family holiday to Spain next week because of the Covid Quarantine enforcements doesn't have such a suitable and easy replacement!
Has your friend not heard of Devon , Cornwall, The Gower, The Lakes, ?..
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 06:44 (Ref:3992211)   #7232
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Has your friend not heard of Devon , Cornwall, The Gower, The Lakes, ?..
Oh yes he has, just like the people on here bemoaning the fact that they can't get into Donington & watch this weekend will have heard of the other circuits & race meetings but wanted to see the BTCC. The point I was making is that they can still watch the BTCC racing on television.
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 06:56 (Ref:3992212)   #7233
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That theory has been blown out of the water with AJ's confirmation that he plans to race 14 weekends in a row.
Doesn't mean it would be as time consuming.
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 11:57 (Ref:3992272)   #7234
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That theory has been blown out of the water with AJ's confirmation that he plans to race 14 weekends in a row.
Stuff changed. Money of course was a very significant factor in stepping down at WSR. A top line BTCC ride is a very expensive hobby; way more expensive than what he's planning on running in.
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 12:02 (Ref:3992276)   #7235
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Stuff changed. Money of course was a very significant factor in stepping down at WSR. A top line BTCC ride is a very expensive hobby; way more expensive than what he's planning on running in.
That's what I mean. It was obvious that money was the reason for his withdrawal. Yet some have tried to portray it as being a decision based on spending more time with his family.

Running your own team and cars, as well as driving them for 14 consecutive weekends, is a lot more time-consuming than concentrating on driving alone.

Compare and contrast JP's activities this weekend with AJ's, then it's clear.
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 12:06 (Ref:3992278)   #7236
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That's what I mean. It was obvious that money was the reason for his withdrawal. Yet some have tried to portray it as being a decision based on spending more time with his family.

Running your own team and cars, as well as driving them for 14 consecutive weekends, is a lot more time-consuming than concentrating on driving alone.

Compare and contrast JP's activities this weekend with AJ's, then it's clear.
No-one tried to portray it as the reason why, other than AJ himself, it was his excuse.
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I am trying (but currently failing) not to get drawn back into this discussion. The classification of The BTCC as an Elite Sport has been made by the Government Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport, so I don't think that can be referred to as 'so called' I'd say it is a bit more official than that. I don't know when that classification was announced, but as others have said above, MSV have a healthy quantity of cash sitting in their banks as a result of BTCC ticket sales for Donington alone and (I'm going to make an assumption now) I feel that may have been influencing their desire to ignore MSUK's guidance and to try and allow spectators into Donington.
Spectators who cannot now go to the circuit can at least watch the action on TV which I know isn't quite the same, but it's a reasonable replacement. My work colleague who has just been forced to cancel his family holiday to Spain next week because of the Covid Quarantine enforcements doesn't have such a suitable and easy replacement!
Good call by the government to ban spectators.....watching British GT on YouTube and social distancing has gone out of the window....god knows what BTCC would be like...

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No-one tried to portray it as the reason why, other than AJ himself, it was his excuse.
Where did he say that?

His column stated that it was a commercial/financial decision.
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Where did he say that?

His column stated that it was a commercial/financial decision.
No idea, it was weeks ago.
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 13:50 (Ref:3992320)   #7240
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Good call by the government to ban spectators.....watching British GT on YouTube and social distancing has gone out of the window....god knows what BTCC would be like...

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Just watched the start of GT. Spectators looked to be well spaced out. Only problems I could see was the organisers allowed a grid walk, no facemasks for pit crews or the interviewers and drivers. With a crowd of just 5k, no gridwalk, I don't see TOCA / Donington as having much of a problem.
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Just watched the start of GT. Spectators looked to be well spaced out. Only problems I could see was the organisers allowed a grid walk, no facemasks for pit crews or the interviewers and drivers. With a crowd of just 5k, no gridwalk, I don't see TOCA / Donington as having much of a problem.
gt didnít allow a pitwalk. each car was allowed 6 people on the grid, including the person holding the grid board. pit crews arenít required to wear face masks if their breathing holes are covered by a balaclava. you only have to wear a face mask if you canít be socially distant, but those used to the european rules where itís masks at all times tend to do that.
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Just watched the start of GT. Spectators looked to be well spaced out.
Round most of the track, spectators did seem to be spaced. The exception appeared to be inside of Dentons. The crowd was definitely bunched up against the fence for parts of the race. It only takes one part of the crowd to bunch up, and they spoil it for all.
My suspicion is that you would see the same at BTCC, or any other event regardless of crowd size.
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Old 2 Aug 2020, 15:11 (Ref:3992372)   #7243
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gt didnít allow a pitwalk. each car was allowed 6 people on the grid, including the person holding the grid board. pit crews arenít required to wear face masks if their breathing holes are covered by a balaclava. you only have to wear a face mask if you canít be socially distant, but those used to the european rules where itís masks at all times tend to do that.
Just went back to watch the start of the British GT again, and it was the the 2019 gridwalk that I had watched first time.
Watched todays, no gridwalk, you are right restricted team numbers on the grid and Kelvin Fletcher was wearing a mask, even when alone doing his piece to camera.
As for spectators, still very few people there as I had seen earlier, most people had chosen to watch from the start/finish but other than standing in what appeared to be family groups, they were all spaced out and had plenty of room.
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Really cant see Knockhill having spectators as Sturgeon is copying everything down South does but with a delay so if Brands/Oulton is no spectators then Knockhill won't be too.
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i'm not sure about the sunday spectator numbers, but the saturday figure was around 1600.

one issue that appeared was that the paddock gate was staffed by msv, who went home at a fairly early hour in the evening (quite right too) allowing those who were camping to walk around free range in the paddock whilst many if not most teams were still working. seemed to defeat the object...

if they were going to allow spectators in for the larger events that's something they'd need to look at.
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