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Old 28 Jul 2020, 22:39 (Ref:3991319)   #16
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I think it should be fine. Thereíll be enough fans without being silly about it. Everything will be carefully managed and it should be a good meeting whatever. Just so glad the tin tops are back in action
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 10:40 (Ref:3991344)   #17
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Well will be at brands next week but afraid i will have to watch this on on ITV4, but pleased to be able to watch some real racing this weekend on tv
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 11:01 (Ref:3991348)   #18
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It's a risky game to play though. Especially if an outbreak gets linked back to it.
mmm, my thoughts exactly.

inside the paddock there's at least two organisations that are responsible for each individual - the team and the organisers. outside the paddock everyone is msv's responsibility. dr palmer must be in a really deep pile of poo to want to take on that liability.
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 11:13 (Ref:3991351)   #19
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mmm, my thoughts exactly.

inside the paddock there's at least two organisations that are responsible for each individual - the team and the organisers. outside the paddock everyone is msv's responsibility. dr palmer must be in a really deep pile of poo to want to take on that liability.
Although I do agree with your sentiments, maybe, due to his medical background, Jonathon Palmer maybe better qualified/experienced to decide what is safe and what isn't? (Not that he is the only person in MSV who makes these types of policy decision that is!).
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 11:16 (Ref:3991352)   #20
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Mr Gow highlighted the difference between paddocks and spectator areas.
Because the paddock is a business area, different rules apply to the public access areas.
It's worth remembering that when discussing why visitors to the circuit are permitted in one area compared to another.
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 11:18 (Ref:3991353)   #21
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Although I do agree with your sentiments, maybe, due to his medical background, Jonathon Palmer maybe better qualified/experienced to decide what is safe and what isn't? (Not that he is the only person in MSV who makes these types of policy decision that is!).
definitely. although it's interesting that like crmalcolm alludes to, at quite a few events, paddock and general public rules regarding face coverings vary.

it would be interesting to see what specific research he's basing all this on.

still it's going to be great to see people back at the circuit enjoying themselves in decent numbers. i just hope it doesn't prove to be a wrong decision, we've seen what those have done to other businesses and industries.
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 16:21 (Ref:3991420)   #23
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Yeah. Really I can understand circuits having different rules on face coverings due to there being different amounts of space. Wonder how many actually require them to be worn for the fans

I see no problem with fans being there, should be plenty of space. It will add to the event and letís hope for a great meeting
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 17:09 (Ref:3991441)   #24
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Yeah. Really I can understand circuits having different rules on face coverings due to there being different amounts of space. Wonder how many actually require them to be worn for the fans

I see no problem with fans being there, should be plenty of space. It will add to the event and letís hope for a great meeting
It's not about the amount of space though - it's about controlling the bunching up a pinch-points around the circuit.

When Jolly Jeff emerges from his beach-shelter-cum-field-kitchen at the end of race 2, and needs to empty his bladder of cheap own-brand lager into the nearest ditch. Then feels the urge to spend eight quid on some soggy cardboard stuffed between two halves of a stale bap, before returning to recommence the smoke signals floating across Craner Curves. Do you really think he'll take heed of gentle advice to put on his mask and wait 30 mins before the crowd has cleared sufficiently from his route past Hollywood?
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Unfortunately that link doesnít work, so I canít tell if the story is true or not lol
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NO SPECTATORS AT THIS WEEKENDíS BTCC ROUND AT DONINGTON PARK

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Wednesday, July 29 2020

We are incredibly disappointed to inform BTCC fans that we will be unable to allow spectators or season pass holders to attend this weekend's (1/2 August) British Touring Car event at Donington Park after all.

MSV has been allowing the safe return of a modest number of spectators to its race events since 11 July, with a comprehensive range of measures in place to comply with government COVID-Secure guidelines. These race meetings have all run extremely successfully, with much positive feedback from visitors.

We have worked closely with North West Leicestershire District Council and Leicestershire County Council on our plans to welcome spectators to the BTCC event this weekend. A multi-agency Safety Advisory Group approved MSV's Covid-Secure policies and confirmed its support for our plans for the opening round of BTCC at Donington Park. This approval was subject only to the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport (DCMS) being satisfied that BTCC is not elite sport. Regrettably, following consultation, DCMS has confirmed today that this is not the case.

This decision has nothing to do with MSV's comprehensive Covid-Secure procedures for keeping our customers and staff safe, but requires that an event including a round of BTCC, as the leading car championship in the UK, must follow the government's five stage elite sport pathway with spectators presently unable to attend.

The majority of our race meetings fall outside of this definition and are unaffected. We are clarifying the position for other BTCC events on MSV circuits and will communicate an update soon.

We fully understand and support the need to have clear policies in place for the reintroduction of spectators to sports such as Premier League football and Rugby League that tend to attract huge crowds, mostly in stadiums, and typically rely on public transport. By contrast, circuit venues are by their very nature wide-open spaces, and have ample room to enable social distancing across dozens of spectator viewing areas. We are therefore very disappointed and frustrated by this turn of events, and are so sorry for the inconvenience this decision will cause to the fans we were expecting to welcome this weekend.

Please do not contact us regarding your booking, as we will be in touch in the coming days with everyone affected (including season pass holders).
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So brands could still be OK, fingers crossed
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