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6 Jan 2021, 21:51 (Ref:4027294)
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1st Monaco GP 1961 3rd on grid, 10th, 62 pole, rtd clutch, 63 pole, rtd accident, 64 pole, rtd oil pressure, 65 at Indy 500 qf2nd, won, 66 pole, dnf rear suspension, 67 indy 500 qf16th rtd piston 31st.
Cars werent reliable those days unlike now when you know you would be very unlucky not to finish
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He raced at Monaco in '67, as well as Indy, retiring with broken suspension like in '66.
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6 Jan 2021, 21:54 (Ref:4027296)
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Chapmans cars were not really ready for Monaco in early 60’s
Moss won in 61 in an 18 but that was it until Hill’s win.
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6 Jan 2021, 22:00 (Ref:4027297)
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Originally Posted by john ruston
He dominated most races between 62 snd Spring 68 except 66 when he managed to win in the H16 car. An impossible thought!
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He won the US GP at Watkins Glen, his only win that year.
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6 Jan 2021, 22:02 (Ref:4027298)
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With one of the most useless engines ever to be used in a front line GP car but that was covered about ten posts ago!
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6 Jan 2021, 22:06 (Ref:4027299)
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Originally Posted by john ruston
Chapmans cars were not really ready for Monaco in early 60’s
Moss won in 61 in an 18 but that was it until Hill’s win.
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Moss won it twice in a Lotus in '60 and '61. The first driver to win back to back.
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6 Jan 2021, 22:08 (Ref:4027301)
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Both with lotus 18!
The 61 race was one of his great drives.
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6 Jan 2021, 22:11 (Ref:4027303)
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I think Stirling himself said the 61 Monaco GP and the 55 Mille Miglia were his greatest drives and it’s hard to disagree there
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7 Jan 2021, 04:23 (Ref:4027339)
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Would have thought the 61 race at the Ring would be in there. Better than Monte Carlo?
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7 Jan 2021, 06:36 (Ref:4027345)
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Both were great in that he beat the dominant Ferraris, but at Monaco he admits he was on the limit lap after lap. Now that takes some dedication, especially at Monte Carlo
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7 Jan 2021, 07:41 (Ref:4027350)
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More so at the proper Ring?
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7 Jan 2021, 08:22 (Ref:4027354)
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More so at the proper Ring?
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Masta Kink alone puts Monaco in the shade.
Comparing modern drivers to those of the late 60s is like comparing Chinese Checkers to playing Hopscotch on a minefield.
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7 Jan 2021, 10:39 (Ref:4027386)
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Now we’re at Francochamps!
I went to 65 Belgium GP and at end of first lap Clark was way ahead of Stewart who was way ahead of rest.
Not bad as he detested the place!
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7 Jan 2021, 17:09 (Ref:4027470)
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He won the US GP at Watkins Glen, his only win that year.
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Hadn't got my glasses on the read the results in Tremaynes new book, very small writing, had to read Tulloch's older book
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7 Jan 2021, 17:44 (Ref:4027482)
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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith
He won the US GP at Watkins Glen, his only win that year.
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Your right of course, Hadn't got my glasses on to the read the results in Tremaynes new book, very small writing, had to read Tulloch's older book to check
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