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Old 30 Apr 2012, 18:56 (Ref:3067589)   #1
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Dreaming of a FIA/FIM Motorsport World Cup - Sports car events

Hi, folks! Today I woke up dreaming of a FIA/FIM Motorsport World Cup, the equivalent of the Olympics and the FIFA, FIBA, IAAF and IRB World Cups. It would be held in a rotating single venue every four years. It would show all motorsport disciplines in a single event, promote technology development and road safety, and attract major audiences.

The main disciplines would be formula racing, sports prototypes, grand tourers, touring cars, rallying, rallycross, superbikes, motocross, enduro and trial. Secondary disciplines could be oval racing, trucks, drifting, hillclimbing, ice racing, freestyle motoross, etc. The final events would be karting and minibikes, with the podium finishers and polesitters from all the disciplines.

Each country would field up to 3 drivers in each discipline (5 in protos / GT), so in a 24-vehicle grid there could be over a dozen countries represented.

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There would be three sports car racing events: two 40-minute heats for single driver GT3, a 2-hour race for two-driver GT3, and a 6-hour race for three-driver LMP1 teams and guest GT3 teams for non tin-top drivers and riders.

I pulled this GT3 grid. No manufacturer has multiple drivers from the same country.

o- Germany: Bernhard (Audi), Dirk Werner (BMW), Jäger (Mercedes), Bergmeister (Porsche), Krumm (Nissan)
o- Britain: McNish (Audi), Priaulx (BMW), Jarvis (Mercedes), Westbrook (Porsche), Turner (Aston Martin)
o- France: Dumas (Audi), Pilet (Porsche)
o- Monaco: Ortelli (Audi), Beretta (Ferrari)
o- Italy: Fisichella, Bruni or Bertolini (Ferrari)
o- Czech Republic: Enge (Lamborghini)
o- Austria: Wendingler (Mercedes), Lietz (Porsche)
o- Netherlands: Maassen (Porsche), Cox (Lamborghini)
o- Belgium: Martin (BMW), Goosens (Dodge)
o- Sweden: Ekstrom (Audi)
o- Finland: Vilander (Ferrari)
o- Denmark: Kristensen (Audi), Magnussen (Chevrolet)
o- Spain: Garc*a (Chevrolet)
o- Portugal: Parente (McLaren), Lamy (Corvette)
o- United States: Hand (BMW), Long (Porsche), Milner (Chevrolet), Hunter-Reay (Dodge)
o- Canada: Spengler (BMW), Wickens (Mercedes)
o- Mexico: Fernández (Aston Martin)
o- Brazil: Farfus (BMW), Matos or Melo (Ferrari)
o- Australia: Brabham (McLaren)
o- Japan: Motoyama (Nissan)

That's 3 Audis, 3 BMWs, 2 Mercedes, 3 Porsches, 2 Ferraris, 2 Chevys and 1 Aston, McLaren, Dodge, Lamborghini and Nissan, totalling 20 cars. France, Italy and Japan could provide more drivers, but I can't put them anywhere (should ask for help to Toyota / Lexus and Nissan). With the 5-driver limit, there are tons of Germans and Britons missing the World Cup.

Who would you pick?

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Old 30 Apr 2012, 19:42 (Ref:3067615)   #2
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I don't get it.

Why would this happen, what would the sanction fee be, who would go see it, and who pays for these one off cars, and how do the manufacturers ensure they are equal?
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Emmm ..... last time I checked Ireland was somewhere in Europe !!!

Ireland ..... Kane HPD , Griffin-Ferrari , Faulkner-Porsche .
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Sorry, Badger, I'm sure I've forgotten lots of countries. I opened the top 2011 GT championships in Wikipedia and built the list. Kane surely can do the LMP1 race, or perhaps run yet another Audi.

Faulkner seems to have raced in Porsche Cup races only, so I'd pick others firsts. I had never heared Griffin, and for a reason: he only did British Porsche Cup and Touring Car with little success.

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Fogelhund, the World Cup would be a joint venture of FIA and FIM, with support from all sanctioning bodies and promoters to promote motorsport around the world.

Editions in North America, Europe and East Asia could happen in late August, during the season pause and just before football begins. Editions in the Middle East, Oceania and South America could happen in mid December, when there's nicer weather.

Like the Olympics and the Football World Cup, the FIA and FIM would get terrestrial television coverage and would attract major sponsors. They would pay the party, without forgetting manufacturers, drivers sponsors snd national sponsors (Eircom could back Kane, same for Exim Bank and O'Young).

GT3 and WRC cars are equalized, same for Moto2 or Superbikes. Formula cars would be spec, with eventual multiple engines later a la IndyCar.
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With the Olympics underway, let's revisit this proposal.


Hypercars:
  • United Kingdom 1: Callum Ilott, Alex Lynn, Will Stevens.
  • United Kingdom 2: Mike Conway, James Calado, Nick Tandy.
  • Germany: André Lotterer, René Rast, Marco Wittmann.
  • Italy: Antonio Fuoco, Antonio Giovinazzi, Alessandro Pier Guidi.
  • France: Kévin Estre, Frédéric Makowiecki, Sébastien Bourdais.
  • Iberia: Miguel Molina, Álex Palou, Filipe Albuquerque.
  • Belgium: Laurens Vanthoor, Dries Vanthoor, Stoffel Vandoorne.
  • Netherlands: Nyck de Vries, Robin Frijns, Renger van der Zande.
  • Switzerland: Sébastien Buemi, Neel Jani, Louis Delétraz.
  • Denmark: Michael Christensen, Nicklas Nielse, Oliver Rasmussen.
  • Japan: Kamui Kobayashi, Ry? Hirakawa, Sho Tsuboi.
  • Oceania: Matt Campbell, Brendon Hartley, Earl Bamber.
  • United States: Dane Cameron, Jordan Taylor, Ricky Taylor.
  • Brazil: Felipe Drugovich, Felipe Nasr, Pipo Derani.
GT3:
  • United Kingdom: make your pick.
  • Germany: make your pick.
  • Italy: make your pick.
  • France: Kévin Estre, Patrick Pilet, Mathieu Jaminet.
  • Spain: Antonio Garcia, Daniel Juncadella, Alex Riberas.
  • Benelux: Maxime Martin, Charles Weerts, Nicky Catsburg.
  • Switzerland: Ricardo Feller, Raffaele Marciello, Patric Niederhauser.
  • Austria: Thomas Preining, Philipp Eng, Lucas Auer.
  • Denmark: Michael Christensen, Nicki Thiim, Marco Sørensen.
  • South Africa: Jordan Pepper, Sheldon van der Linde, Kelvin van der Linde.
  • United States: Joey Hand, Tommy Milner, Madison Snow.
  • Brazil: Augusto Farfus, Daniel Serra, Nicolas Costa.
  • Argentina: José Maria López, Nicolás Varrone, Ezequiel Pérez Companc.
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So many of these "sports" in the Olympics don't belong there. Rock climbing, Break dancing, surfring, skateboarding! What a joke. The only recent addition to the Olympics (new sports since 2000) that is worthy is golf.

I watch Mens Basketball the most. I have watched soccer, golf, some Track, some swimming. Also the events with the hot women like Beach volleyball, diving, womens pole vault, and water polo.

Auto racing should be in there I think. The format and type of vehicles would be the trick. Perhaps sprint racing with a spec formula car of some type? I am less familiar with that. But you can have a team endurance race with all nations running identical Porsche 992 or Lambo Super Trofeo cars.
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Trope alert! Trope alert! Olympics has different ‘“sports!”’

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GT3:
  • United Kingdom: make your pick.
  • Germany: make your pick.
  • Italy: make your pick.
I’m curious on the “make your pick” part. Is that because there are just so many to chose from?
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I think ROC's format for Nations's cup is an excellent format.
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The format and type of vehicles would be the trick. Perhaps sprint racing with a spec formula car of some type? I am less familiar with that. But you can have a team endurance race with all nations running identical Porsche 992 or Lambo Super Trofeo cars.
2CV's. No brainer.
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Running for FIA president any time soon? I'd vote for that
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I'd go for unrestricted Hypercars in the top class. So no restrictions on power, hybrid deployment etc.

Then for the 'second' class... unrestricted GT500 machinery and some of the old Class 1 DTM cars all on the finest sticky Japanese rubber.

As an Olympic event it would be farcical. As a Motorsport event it would be the most intriguing of the season.
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Running for FIA president any time soon?
Nah! Not weird enough.
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