BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 80

CroftPilgrim · 18 Dec 2019, 11:38 (Ref:3947320)

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Originally Posted by Matt K

touring fan01 we will start believing every word you say...

So this Jordan's new era is not that new. The same championship, the same car, the same team, just a different livery. Nevertheless I'm very happy he's back, such top level drivers should be on the grid.

He has never run in the BTCC without Pirtek. In three car teams he had always run separate livery. For him I can imagine this feels very different and the start of a new era.

Sodemo · 18 Dec 2019, 11:42 (Ref:3947321)

I think his 2009 Vectra livery was quite close to being a uniform one, but yes, I think he has always had a different livery.

Matt K · 18 Dec 2019, 12:05 (Ref:3947325)

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Originally Posted by CroftPilgrim

He has never run in the BTCC without Pirtek. In three car teams he had always run separate livery. For him I can imagine this feels very different and the start of a new era.

Yeah, you're right and I perfectly understand that albeit deleting all posts on Instagram and all of that made it look as if it was a completely new chapter for him.

billy bleach · 18 Dec 2019, 13:16 (Ref:3947332)

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Originally Posted by Rob877

Shud of given it to Jade, grate driver and grate person

Goody?

porsche962fan · 18 Dec 2019, 13:25 (Ref:3947335)

unexpected but nice for WSR to retain same lineup

that said only 11 seats fully confirmed, not even half the grid

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish

Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Aiden Moffat
Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Ash Sutton

VW CC - HARD - Jack Goff
VW CC - HARD - Mike Bushell
VW CC - HARD - ??????

BMW 125 - HARD - Carl Boardley

BMW 125 - Team Parker - Stephen Jelley ??

BMW 3 - WSR - Colin Turkington
BMW 3 - WSR - Tom Oliphant
BMW 3 - WSR - Andrew Jordan

Mercedes - Cicely - Adam Morgan
Mercedes - Cicely - Daniel Rowbottom

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - Jason Plato
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ????

Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????
Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????

Honda Civic - AMD - ?????
Honda Civic - AMD - ?????

Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Josh Cook ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Tom Chilton ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - ????????

Honda Civic - Simpson Racing - Matt Simpson ??

Ford Focus - Motorbase - Rory Butcher ??????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ????

Audi S3 - TPC - ????
Audi S3 - TPC - ????

mark_l · 18 Dec 2019, 13:32 (Ref:3947338)

I have never really seen AJ as a team player, so I will be interested to see how he manages being a team player in Team Turkington.

porsche962fan · 18 Dec 2019, 13:35 (Ref:3947340)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I think his 2009 Vectra livery was quite close to being a uniform one, but yes, I think he has always had a different livery.

yes it was same base but a few extra PIRTEK stickers

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ectra_BTCC.jpg

crmalcolm · 18 Dec 2019, 14:03 (Ref:3947341)

The Pirtek backing was also minimal in 2008.

But yes, this will be the first time he has had no Pirtek backing on his car, and a long time since he has been the focus of his main backers.

As with any driver who 'moves' to being part of a larger team, there must be an adjustment of the mindset as part of the racecraft.

andrewc · 18 Dec 2019, 14:27 (Ref:3947347)

Now AJ is a BMW boy, he can't vote or threaten with his feet by taking his Pirtek money elsewhere, so he's got to stay with BMW through good times and bad.

Crazyknight · 18 Dec 2019, 14:31 (Ref:3947349)

I’d like to see how AJ plays out now being a team player, I’ve never been a fan of him as a person tbf think he’s just way too arrogant and self centred to work full within a team, especially when he was going against team orders last year.

Will be interesting to see how Dick handles him as part of team bmw now

Pickles · 18 Dec 2019, 15:48 (Ref:3947363)

Looks like 2 new drivers at TPC...

https://www.facebook.com/43979930643...1775015242177/

I was expecting Jake to be staying, maybe he's moving up to AmD then?

Crazyknight · 18 Dec 2019, 16:04 (Ref:3947366)

Do t see Blundell stickin about next year now

porsche962fan · 18 Dec 2019, 16:04 (Ref:3947367)

so Blundell at WSR is over and it means he is gone from the series probably

Collard staying at PMR or maybe he seeks a Civic seat ?

strange that not a single non Dynamics Civic seat is confirmed so far !!! must be a hot commodity

crmalcolm · 18 Dec 2019, 16:24 (Ref:3947373)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

so Blundell at WSR is over

strange that not a single non Dynamics Civic seat is confirmed so far !!!

Linking those two points together - MB was evaluating the possibility of switching to a FK2 towards the end of 2019. MB Partners has also been speculated as having an interest in Jake's career management.

So maybe one or two of the FK2 seats were already tied up by MB a while ago - it just hasn't been announced yet? Cobra already confirmed a while back that they would have two different drivers for 2020 in their cars.

MrsDoubtfire · 18 Dec 2019, 16:42 (Ref:3947378)

Every driver on the grid is selfish by definition - why would you be anything else whilst you have still have a chance of winning the championship?AJ played his part in Colin’s 2018 title, especially in the penultimate race when Colin was struggling, but also in races prior to that. As long as a driver has a mathematical chance of winning the championship there are no team orders in WSR, other than don’t take each other off. In fact they go out of their way to ensure a level playing field and I can’t see that changing.

I think this could be a great year for AJ. For the first time his place in a top team is purely because the manufacturer and team want him there, not because he has a big bag of Pirtek cash to go with his undoubted talent. I think that will give him a real boost in confidence and determination.

Jiiiiiiim · 18 Dec 2019, 16:53 (Ref:3947379)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

unexpected but nice for WSR to retain same lineup

that said only 11 seats fully confirmed, not even half the grid

Only 11 confirmed but quite a few contracts signed and not announced yet. Should see a few more pieces of the puzzle confirmed soon.

billy bleach · 18 Dec 2019, 16:56 (Ref:3947380)

strange that not a single non Dynamics Civic seat is confirmed so far !!! must be a hot commodity[/QUOTE]

What apart from one driver owning the team and the other one having a two year contract....

porsche962fan · 18 Dec 2019, 17:00 (Ref:3947382)

and anyone really think that is someone with lots of $$$ approaches Matt Simpson he wouldn't be tempted to give up the seat ?

Pickles · 18 Dec 2019, 17:03 (Ref:3947383)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

and anyone really think that is someone with lots of $$$ approaches Matt Simpson he wouldn't be tempted to give up the seat ?

Apparently the car and TBL are still for sale...

News coming from Senna Proctor soon

S griffin · 18 Dec 2019, 17:36 (Ref:3947389)

It’s good we are getting more and more announcements. Haven’t had many clues about the seats so far

Coloni_Subaru · 18 Dec 2019, 17:39 (Ref:3947390)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

unexpected but nice for WSR to retain same lineup

that said only 11 seats fully confirmed, not even half the grid

Toyota Corolla - Speedworks - Tom Ingram

Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Matt Neal
Honda Civic - Team Dynamics - Dan Cammish

Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Aiden Moffat
Infiniti Q50 - Laser Tools - Ash Sutton

VW CC - HARD - Jack Goff
VW CC - HARD - Mike Bushell
VW CC - HARD - ??????

BMW 125 - HARD - Carl Boardley

BMW 125 - Team Parker - Stephen Jelley ??

BMW 3 - WSR - Colin Turkington
BMW 3 - WSR - Tom Oliphant
BMW 3 - WSR - Andrew Jordan

Mercedes - Cicely - Adam Morgan
Mercedes - Cicely - Daniel Rowbottom

Vauxhall Astra - PMR - Jason Plato
Vauxhall Astra - PMR - ????

Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????
Hyundai I30 - Excelr8 Motorspor - ???????

Honda Civic - AMD - ?????
Honda Civic - AMD - ?????

Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Josh Cook ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - Tom Chilton ?????
Honda Civic - BTC Racing - ????????

Honda Civic - Simpson Racing - Matt Simpson ??

Ford Focus - Motorbase - Rory Butcher ??????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ????
Ford Focus - Motorbase - ????

Audi S3 - TPC - ????
Audi S3 - TPC - ????

12 JP signed a 3 year deal with PMR start of this year.

Alfisti · 18 Dec 2019, 18:12 (Ref:3947396)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

is there somebody on the grid with who Plato is best of friends ?

His dad (obviously before peeps have to get off before the race starts).

A smart arse answer to a smart arse question. Sponsored by Pirtek.

Alfisti · 18 Dec 2019, 18:19 (Ref:3947398)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

It’s good we are getting more and more announcements. Haven’t had many clues about the seats so far

Clue 1:
They'll consist of a base and a back.

Clue 2:
There'll be mounting brackets holding the base to the car.

Clue 3:
There'll be a bloke* sat in them during the race.

*or maybe a girl

Alfisti · 18 Dec 2019, 19:40 (Ref:3947411)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

So touring fan01 is 2for2 so far with marked words.
Alfisti's suggestion that Collard would be in the 3rd BMW failed to materialise.

I think I suggested it as a possibility if Jordan was off. It's certainly something I would have liked to see as I believe Rob would take to the car like a duck to water. Realistically Rob will continue at PMR or not return to the series. Hope he's racing something somewhere, jolly nice chap for a chat.

Coloni_Subaru · 19 Dec 2019, 00:56 (Ref:3947436)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I think I suggested it as a possibility if Jordan was off. It's certainly something I would have liked to see as I believe Rob would take to the car like a duck to water. Realistically Rob will continue at PMR or not return to the series. Hope he's racing something somewhere, jolly nice chap for a chat.

That is and has always been the plan,

The BMW thing was cooked up on here,

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