IMSA Race 2017 - Rolex Daytona 24

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by kvenom

I'm really not enjoying this Cadillac marketing schill on RLM.

Originally Posted by gert

O'Connell doing a Cadillac commercial on Radio Le Mans?

Were the ones from Mazda in the past better? Try FOX and their constant bombardment of their "agenda."

[TzeiTzei]

Originally Posted by TF110

The Caddy's are insanely fast. They're embarrassing the rest of the P class. They're doing 36's, everyone else is 39's and above. That's like when Audi used to whip on everyone in their early R10 days .

They're embarrassing IMSA. Don't do BoP if you don't know how to do it.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by gert

The problem is that the BoP *supposedly* would balance the performance of the different DPi's up/down to the level of the P2s to create a level playing field.

Looking at the respective fastest lap times between, something did NOT work out.

Surely Caddy didn't do what GM ALWAYS does when introducing a new car and run to a delta time for BoP benefit.... say it isn't so... I refuse to believe it.

[Damian Baldi]

Originally Posted by RWill2073

One factory put in more time, effort, resources and have two good teams running them. I fail to see the huge problem here. Let it play out and see if other teams gain over the year.

That's not what IMSA have said to invite P2 teams. They sold that every team could be able to compete, and it was ok until last BoP, now we see the Cadillacs going to 1.35 while the best P2 with the best P1 drivers getting 1.38 as best.

[gert]

On the other hand, we have 4 different cars running at the front of GTD.
(And 7 different brands in the first 7 positions)

[venturi]

Ooh, nice, SVG in a 4 car fight in GTD.

[Nick Woodbury]

Well Johnny O' just "graced" us with his presence on the RLM stream...time to rant!

I hope that I am not alone in saying that the over-excitable dog that is Johnny O' is the single most obnoxious human being to walk this earth?

I can trace my disdain for his commentary ability in the old ALMS ESPN3 days when the brass at ESPN thought it a good idea to have him in as color commentator. I have never known someone who's voice and overall commentary style irks me more than Johnny O.

Having said that, so long as he is unable to complete a phrase or a sentence without interjecting a couple hundred-million "Um's", 'Y'Knows', or 'I tell ya's', I will always find it suitable to serve him a nice warm plate of Mute Button.

[godlameroso]

The P2 to DPi BOP is actually not too bad. And the BOP in Formula Cadillac is pretty good all 3 cars are pretty even.

[kvenom]

Jeez the Cadillacs just murdered the Rebellion on the bank.

[RWill2073]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

There would be no problem if IMSA didn't keep going on about being able to balance the manufacturer DPis with the WEC P2s and with each other. If they had not bothered everybody would be praising Caddy for doing so well.

That's fair, but that feels like complaining about a lack of bop. I thought most of us were tired of bop nonsense.

I mean, I guess one way to look at it is that imsa failed in bop.

Another way, is that the American prototype class is capable of being head and shoulders above the semi spec p2 aco class. Now the American prototype class is a legitimate first class class.

I am choosing to look at it the second way. I would rather have an audi-like performance than a car that is the class of the field being leveled down to a common lesser group. Imagine seeing Doonan's goofy smile if his cars pace was the level of the leaders, because of bop.

[10TENTHS]

Good for Alb that he's up to speed then.

Nobody else is using the Dallara chassis, either stock or as a base for anything. Judging by the restart, that V8 is putting out a lot of horses. I expect IMSA to slap a restrictor on it after the race...

[Scorchess]

Originally Posted by kvenom

Jeez the Cadillacs just murdered the Rebellion on the bank.

Clearly Angelleli and Curran are way better drivers than that rookie Frenchman in the Rebellion...

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by deggis

http://imsaintl-lh.akamaihd.net/i/im...16/master.m3u8

Is it geoblocked in US? Incase it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQALjf45mCo

Deggis. thanks again. SOOO muvh better than listening to FOX.

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

Surely Caddy didn't do what GM ALWAYS does when introducing a new car and run to a delta time for BoP benefit.... say it isn't so... I refuse to believe it.

For the first time since qualifying, evidence pointing towards sandbagging is actually growing.

Too bad it doesn't -as I'm sure far too many believe- override the fact that literally every other manufacturer has had problems that have clearly held back their performance, so we do not have genuinely accurate comparisons to draw from.

[Scorchess]

Originally Posted by RWill2073

Another way, is that the American prototype class is capable of being head and shoulders above the semi spec p2 aco class. Now the American prototype class is a legitimate first class class.

Only because IMSA allows it so. Do you think Gibson could not turn up that V8 to match the Caddy if they were allowed to?

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Deggis. thanks again. SOOO muvh better than listening to FOX.

Yes it is, nice to get home and find Hindy is on too

Is their actually a race or just a whine fest going on?? See a LOT of keyboard experts hours into the season. So can I remind all of the whiners what they said if any LMP2 car is faster at Sebring? It's ONE VERY UNIQUE track, either they are slightly off here or we get the BOP-of-the-week deal. Pick ONLY one.

[carbsmith]

Is a Cadillac breezing past the next fastest car on the banking like they're in different classes not compelling enough for you?

[Damian Baldi]

Nice "fight" between Duval, Rast and Van Overbeek on the world of 1.39 per lap.

BTW the spanish drivers (Gutierrez and another one) talking at FOX are talking imminent rain coming next.

[RWill2073]

Originally Posted by carbsmith

Is a Cadillac breezing past the next fastest car on the banking like they're in different classes not compelling enough for you?

Man you guys must have hated the alms with audi crushing everybody lol.

[TzeiTzei]

Originally Posted by RWill2073

That's fair, but that feels like complaining about a lack of bop. I thought most of us were tired of bop nonsense.

If you're gonna do BoP, then do it properly or don't do it at all.

[chernaudi]

For as much complaining about BOP and the way that IMSA do things with FCYs, this is really no different than when Audi were running R8s in the first half of the 2000s. Especially 2000-2003.

[fieldodreams79]

Damnit

[MaskedRacer]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

Only because IMSA allows it so. Do you think Gibson could not turn up that V8 to match the Caddy if they were allowed to?

IMSA considering a 5 minute sandbagging penalty? I hope. Just speculation on my part. Commentators would not say that unless it happened.

GTD getting the coverage it deserves. They are toying with each other right now though. Would love to see all of these guys in there in the last hour. I have a heart for BMW on this one.

#4 Corvette in trouble!

[kvenom]

I feel as if Sam Bird is way too good of a driver for GTD...

[TF110]

Get ready for a caution if that Vette doesn't get moving.