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Old 11 Feb 2019, 17:43 (Ref:3883313)   #391
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Mike, I try my best to keep up at the back but may I ask why Silverstone Classic would not be worth the money asked? Its said to be one of your flagship and to any foreigner sounds like the place to be. I feel missing something, probably because I dont know you other tracks, but what?
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Old 11 Feb 2019, 18:14 (Ref:3883318)   #392
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Mike, I try my best to keep up at the back but may I ask why Silverstone Classic would not be worth the money asked? Its said to be one of your flagship and to any foreigner sounds like the place to be. I feel missing something, probably because I dont know you other tracks, but what?
It’s the circuit layout that isn’t, in my opinion worth paying a premium to race on. I’m not a fan of the current GP configuration, even when the faster ‘historic’ Vale corner is used. In the UK, Brands Hatch GP or Donington are far nicer to drive. (Again, my opinion.)

Silverstone Classic as an event is superb, as long as you accept that because it attracts huge numbers of spectators it is very busy. More like LMC in that respect, complete with massive car club displays, Music concert and other activities for families. That side of the meeting I really enjoy.

One issue that can’t be overcome is having to use two different pits and paddocks to accommodate all the race cars- the original ‘National’ for morning races, and the new ‘Wing’ complex and paddock for afternoon races. So if you’ve got cars running AM and PM, you have to shuttle between the two paddocks, possibly with spares and equipment, negotiating the crowds of spectators carefully at the same time! It doesn’t bother me as you get used to it, but it does put some racers off.

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Old 11 Feb 2019, 18:48 (Ref:3883330)   #393
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Thank you, I had got the picture that you are only giving your opinion. For instance, Jean Marc you met last year would love to go back, (he is one of the few who has entered every LMC edition) he reports the two events being on his wish list. Parfois, l'herbe semble plus verte dans le pré d'en face! In other words, attractive and exotic!
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Old 20 Feb 2019, 08:00 (Ref:3885506)   #394
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Email from UK Motorsport regarding their 'Pre '64 series'-

"Pre ’64 is GO
The launch of our own new Series.
This is for road going production sports, saloons or GT cars which were built before 1964 (later cars accepted but must be to 1964 spec)"

• Cars must be below 2900cc although larger cc cars will be accepted on an individual invitation basis

• FIA compliant including use of Dunlop tyres

• All 30 minute races

Proposed dates (subject to confirmation)-
Saturday April 20th – Donington
Saturday May 25th – Snetterton
Sunday June 9th – Brands Hatch
Sunday June 16th – Mallory Park
Sunday July 28th – Cadwell Park
Saturday August 3rd – Silverstone
Saturday October 12th – Lydden Hill

And their full calendar-

Saturday April 6th – Silverstone (National) – Tin Tops, Super Saloons, Intermarque (2 x 15 mins)
Saturday April 20th – Donington (AMOC) – Pre ‘64
Saturday April 27th – Brands Hatch (Indy) - Super Saloons, Intermarque (2 x 15 mins)
Sunday April 28th – Brands Hatch (Indy) - Tin Tops (1 x 30 mins)
Saturday May 25th – Snetterton (300)(BRSCC) – Pre ‘64/Classic Series
Sunday May 26th – Snetterton (300) - Tin Tops, Super Saloons, Intermarque - (2 x 15 mins)
Sunday June 9th – Brands Hatch (Indy)(AMOC) – Pre ‘64
Sunday June 16th – Mallory - CMMC Classic and Modern Motorsport Festival
Sunday July 7th – Castle Combe – Intermarque only
Sunday July 28th – Cadwell Park (full) – CMMC Race Meeting
Saturday August 3rd – Silverstone (National) – BDC invite
Sunday August 4th – Brands Hatch (GP) – Tin tops, Super Saloons, Intermarque
Saturday September 28th – Brands Hatch (Indy) – Tin Tops - (1 x 30 mins)
Sunday September 29th – Brands Hatch (Indy) – Super Saloons, Intermarque - (2 x 15 mins)
Saturday October 12th – Lydden Hill – CMMC Race Meeting
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Old 22 Feb 2019, 18:28 (Ref:3886020)   #395
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Looking at the HSCC chart looks like the Pre 80 Endurance is now called Thundersports.Interesting to see if this changes anything.Hopefully the series can attract better grids after a rather poor season last year.
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Old 22 Feb 2019, 20:22 (Ref:3886045)   #396
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As well as changing the name didn't the HSCC also open the 'Thundersports' series up to newer Sports 2000 cars in an attempt to increase grid numbers ?

Talking of attempts to increase grid numbers I see the HSCC's Dunlop Saloon Car Cup ( nee Super Touring Cars ) will feature a class for Group 1/1.5 cars racing on slick tyres . I wonder how much this will impact on MRL's HTCC series ? I suppose only time will tell but , along with the new UK Motorsport Pre '64 Saloon/Sports series , it seems the cake is being cut into ever more , but probably smaller slices .

Finally , over on the Classic F3 website some good news as their entry fee for the Silverstone Classic has been reduced to the same level as the Historic F2 racers , £995 .
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As well as changing the name didn't the HSCC also open the 'Thundersports' series up to newer Sports 2000 cars in an attempt to increase grid numbers ?

Talking of attempts to increase grid numbers I see the HSCC's Dunlop Saloon Car Cup ( nee Super Touring Cars ) will feature a class for Group 1/1.5 cars racing on slick tyres . I wonder how much this will impact on MRL's HTCC series ? I suppose only time will tell but , along with the new UK Motorsport Pre '64 Saloon/Sports series , it seems the cake is being cut into ever more , but probably smaller slices .

Finally , over on the Classic F3 website some good news as their entry fee for the Silverstone Classic has been reduced to the same level as the Historic F2 racers , £995 .
I believe they did.

Maybe although as they are different races,sprint and enduro and most dates dont cpash it may just be extra races.They've got good interest so hopefully both do well and in the case of HTCC continue to do so.
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I seem to recall Thundersports grids were improved by S2000 some were very quick with tweeks.
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As well as changing the name didn't the HSCC also open the 'Thundersports' series up to newer Sports 2000 cars in an attempt to increase grid numbers ?

Talking of attempts to increase grid numbers I see the HSCC's Dunlop Saloon Car Cup ( nee Super Touring Cars ) will feature a class for Group 1/1.5 cars racing on slick tyres . I wonder how much this will impact on MRL's HTCC series ? I suppose only time will tell but , along with the new UK Motorsport Pre '64 Saloon/Sports series , it seems the cake is being cut into ever more , but probably smaller slices .

Finally , over on the Classic F3 website some good news as their entry fee for the Silverstone Classic has been reduced to the same level as the Historic F2 racers , £995 .
Don't think it will make much difference since Dunlop don't make slicks to fit many of the cars.

I tried to get some for my Rover for the CER series and in the end we got them to accept running on Yoko or Toyo tyres.
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Talking of attempts to increase grid numbers I see the HSCC's Dunlop Saloon Car Cup ( nee Super Touring Cars ) will feature a class for Group 1/1.5 cars racing on slick tyres . I wonder how much this will impact on MRL's HTCC series ? I suppose only time will tell but , along with the new UK Motorsport Pre '64 Saloon/Sports series , it seems the cake is being cut into ever more , but probably smaller slices .
As Peter says, the Dunlop slick tyre range doesn’t really work for GP1 cars with narrow rims. He will know better than me, but I thought Goodwood MM regs required Dunlop Post Historic treaded tyres only for the GMT race? And MRL series allows Avon tyres? If the meetings don’t clash, and car owners have the funds, no reason why they can’t do both series.

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Finally , over on the Classic F3 website some good news as their entry fee for the Silverstone Classic has been reduced to the same level as the Historic F2 racers , £995 .
That’s good news. Common sense prevails?
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I tried to get some for my Rover for the CER series and in the end we got them to accept running on Yoko or Toyo tyres.
If I remember well, Peter, you already suggested to have Avons made for Capris, probably the reason why I registered here after many years of reading only. I was suggested to find TRX by some organiser too… A048 is better than nothing even if not as good as a slick. HTC grid remains an exception probably hard to manage and making few money.

As to grids mixing Grp1 and 1,5, knowing how many good 1,5 you have and bearing in mind that the great majority is targeting an overall win…
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Mike. Yes goodwood is post historic tyres. The MRL Avons are for the Groups 2 and A cars unless something has changed. Tony Dron cars run on Post Historics although I know there were thoughts of changing

Yes Gerard we did look at various slicks but nothing was avaialble when I ran the Capri. Incidentally.i understand my old Capri has re surfaced.
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Yes Gerard we did look at various slicks but nothing was avaialble when I ran the Capri. Incidentally I understand my old Capri has re surfaced.
Yes Peter your efforts in this field led me to join your pack.
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Had a chat with Mike previously and Ric Wood more recently. From my understanding Dunlop post historic are good but narrow compared to 205/60. I tried to make understand to a young man here that we could - may be- consider the outside diameter only, leading to a huge choice of tires in 15" using 577 mm for a 205 as a benchmark. My French must be as my English, too bad to be understood! It wouldn't be legally correct to move from 13" to 15" but remains to organiser's decision.

So your ex-Capri is not ?
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