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Old 11 Feb 2021, 08:39 (Ref:4034639)   #1901
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I was just hoping it was some confusion between the team name and Mr Storey's Christian name.
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The Hynes career stall was odd but strongly suspect him not being extremely well financed and/or not linked to a development scheme had a major bearing.

I certainly fully expected him to progress to F3000 but if he didn't have the wherewithal to do that, F1 was never on. Shame, he was clearly a top talent.

Too tall for the cars of the time?
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Old 26 Feb 2021, 20:33 (Ref:4037222)   #1903
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https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...r-naar-renault

Dutch website GP Today announces that Williams and Mercedes are to split at the end of 2022 with Williams moving back to Renault.

Not sure how much credibility we have to attach to this story?
They also launced rumours about Sauber going to Renault earlier
https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...rmen-voor-2022



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Dutch website GP Today announces that Williams and Mercedes are to split at the end of 2022 with Williams moving back to Renault.

Not sure how much credibility we have to attach to this story?
They also launced rumours about Sauber going to Renault earlier
https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...rmen-voor-2022



I'll believe it when sites like Autosport confirm it.
They only signd an extenton to the deal in 2019, taking them through to 2025. Plus they have just extended to include transmissions / powertrains.

It seems to lack substance and I will wait for official word. I suspect if it is just rumour both parties will confirm that in the near future. Or admit it.
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Old 27 Feb 2021, 10:46 (Ref:4037276)   #1905
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If that happens it would make it pretty clear that manufactuers can only afford to supply and maintain 3 teams (including their own) with the cost caps coming soon?
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It seems to lack substance and I will wait for official word. I suspect if it is just rumour both parties will confirm that in the near future. Or admit it.
That was a decisionmade by the previous management. The new owners probably have a vastly different business plan.

Is it better to be the 2nd team after Alpine or the 4th team after Mercedes, Aston and McLaren?

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If that happens it would make it pretty clear that manufactuers can only afford to supply and maintain 3 teams (including their own) with the cost caps coming soon?
The engines are outside the cost cap?
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The engines are outside the cost cap?
Are they? Crikey I tbought it covered everything that incurs hideous amounts of spend?
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Are they? Crikey I tbought it covered everything that incurs hideous amounts of spend?
They are excluded. But I think the costs for those were previously capped/fixed cost (but still expensive), so the new system does not wrap those in.

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According to this article from formula1.com, ''The cost of purchasing a customer engine supply deal – which has been capped at €15m per season – as well as flight and hotel costs for race and testing travel do not count.''



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Old 4 Mar 2021, 22:36 (Ref:4038802)   #1911
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Right thanks for a bit of clarity guys,
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If your really curious you can read the specifics here...

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...2020-10-30.pdf

Article 3 covers the exclusions, but is actually decently large. I think broadly speaking the items that are "bare minimum" are covered under the caps. But that also covers a number of line items that do have big budgets. Extras like marketing, how nice of a flight and hotel you want for your team, drivers, a few key top people, etc. are excluded.

One interesting thing is that bonuses (I think capped at 20%) are excluded. So either pay can be increased by bonuses, or (as I think it is intended) if teams want to provide performance bonuses for the staff, you can do that outside of the cap (within specific limits)

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This is their partner/sponsor page.


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That looks absolutely awful.

I just read that: "The car has a blue, white and yellow colour scheme intended to evoke their glory days of the 1980s and 1990s."

It really really does not. Instead it looks like a paint job that an underfunded formula ford driver would have on their 4 year old secondhand car.
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Instead it looks like a paint job that an underfunded formula ford driver would have on their 4 year old secondhand car.
It looks the driver went nose first into a wall and they've had to put a spare nose from another team on it.
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I really want to like it, but I am struggling. I think they could have used the ideas from the front or middle for the entire car, but all combined together (with the black back) it just seems disjointed.

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Terrible livery, not a complete concept at all, looks like they run out of vinyl budget half way through. If this is a sign of the decision making of the new regime, it does not bode well...
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Not a fan, I confess. I agree it looks as though they either ran out of budget - or ideas - for the rear of the car.
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