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17 Sep 2002, 09:53 (Ref:382286)
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17 Sep 2002, 10:09 (Ref:382294)
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I find it hard to believe that Toyota would make an announcement before everyone has been tested.
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17 Sep 2002, 12:27 (Ref:382419)
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Nobody except Panis has been announced for Toyota. Everything else is mere guessing. It all depends on what Eddie is going to do.
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17 Sep 2002, 12:41 (Ref:382436)
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Who'd have thought Eddie held the keys to the driver market for next season?!?!?!
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17 Sep 2002, 13:02 (Ref:382461)
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I dont think he does. Personally I think Paul Stoddart does.
Jaguar want Webber. Stoddart wants free Cossies (and who waould'nt after last weekend?). Webber's not worth it. When Paul finally wakes up and does the deal with Ford, all the seats will be wrapped up the following day. The only reason Irvine is still around is as a "Plan B". |
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17 Sep 2002, 14:49 (Ref:382540)
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I don't get the Da Matta thing anyway. If Toyota are looking for vast improvement this year, what's the point of running a guy who's not driven a F1 car in anger and doesn't know any of the tracks?
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22 Sep 2002, 15:50 (Ref:385926)
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Da Matta confirmed at Toyota
French broadcaster TF1 have revealed that Christiano da Matta is confirmed by Toyota F1 to partner Olivier Panis for their 2003 campaign.
More at http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/...g0_Spo25.shtml More news when it breaks. Last edited by NiceGuyEddie; 22 Sep 2002 at 15:52. |
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22 Sep 2002, 15:56 (Ref:385934)
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Waiting for the official announcement... Maybe at Indy?
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22 Sep 2002, 16:01 (Ref:385943)
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That would be my guess anyway.
So now Webber will sign for Jag after all, or is Jag going to surprise us with signing Pizzonia? He did do a remarkable (to say the least) test at Barcelona last thursday. |
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22 Sep 2002, 16:06 (Ref:385945)
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I think Pizzonia is a lot better than he's looked this year in F3000 .
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22 Sep 2002, 16:11 (Ref:385948)
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Jaguar will probably go for Pizzonia, as he is better thna Webber.
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22 Sep 2002, 16:12 (Ref:385949)
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Pizzonia is highly rated by Patrick Head and Frank Williams, and rightly so. His performance at the Jagtest was probably no coincidence either. Some drivers seem to be made for Formula 1 and nothing else. Maybe he was a bit unlucky to find F3000 on his path. If he had the chance to go straight from F3 to F1, he would have been the next best thing. At least that was what people said about him during his F3-days. F3000 spoiled all that a bit, but his performance during F1-test simply shows that he is quick and knows how to go quick, where F1 is concerned. It would be F1's loss when Antonio fails to make it. If it doesnt work out for 2003, than that'll probably be it.
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22 Sep 2002, 16:14 (Ref:385954)
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22 Sep 2002, 21:07 (Ref:386137)
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Two words for you. Alex and Zanardi. Or hows about Michael and Andretti?? This isn't going to work, I bet you.
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22 Sep 2002, 21:17 (Ref:386144)
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Or Juan and Montoya.
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22 Sep 2002, 22:30 (Ref:386183)
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or Jacques and Villeneuve.
Honestly, I think a huge part of being successful in F1 is personality and attitude. Alex was an extremely friendly guy who loved to joke around with his team and competitors, and it didn't suit F1 at all. The Williams team took it as his not being committed enough, and didn't treat him very well either. Christiano on the other hand seems much more focused and has a much stronger personality than Alex did. He has more of an F1 attitude, and I think he might be better mentally suited to handle the pressure-cooker that F1 is. His attitude is similar to Juan Montoya except he is quieter, keeps to himself a bit more and is not so much of a jerk to people around the paddock. Anyway, give him a chance. Nobody's saying he's the next coming or anything, but he should at least be able to hold his own. Now, if he could only arrive ontime for a press conference..... (Cart reporters will understand...) Last edited by Jay; 22 Sep 2002 at 22:33. |
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Well, I believe Jacques has no shortage of personality or attitude, and since he is a former WDC, I would say he has also been successful. Jay, as a fellow Canuck, I try not to let this whole BAR debacle detract from my enjoyment of his skills and performances, especially on occasions like Spa of this season. As was discussed on other threads, much (but of course, not all) of the problems at BAR were related to the responsibilities tied to each percentage of the shareholdings, so things could not have really gotten much better, under the circumstances. As for Cristiano, I wish him luck, if this is confirmed. |
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23 Sep 2002, 14:20 (Ref:386641)
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According to the above website and some people's opinions it's a done deal. however, Carl Haas recently stated it was 50/50 that he'd go to F1. They want to make the announcent at the USGP, at least that appears to be their goal.
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23 Sep 2002, 17:46 (Ref:386702)
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I'm telling y'all. Not going to work. I've had a vision!!
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23 Sep 2002, 17:56 (Ref:386709)
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DaMatta is looking very steady this year but he has not been that great in past years. He is not a JPM nor JV. The reason for his success this year is his team and their consistency. Dario, IMO is every bit as good but because of the chassia change and lack of consistency (some due to his teammate) he is second in points. That is not bad for someone who has faild to finish 7 races (not sure about that number). DaMatta looks like a nice enough guy but he is not the best in CART. However he already is linked to Toyota and they seem to want to keep it in the family. This is a good thing. Toyota may open doors for many drivers in CART.
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However, if he goes to Toyota right now, I think he will fail. Toyota is not up to speed yet, and putting a rookie (F1 that is)talent in an underdeveloped car is not a good idea. Toyota should have more experienced drivers develop the car, then unleash it to whom ever they choose. John |
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This is about as 'official' or 'confirmed' as the other 'official' threads on this topic. So I'm merging it with the other non-official threads.
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