2015 Japanese Super GT

[AkioAsakura95]

For RC-F GT3 entrant for next year:

Everyone, please give your opinion which team do use RC-F GT3 for next year

In my opinion:

1. INGING and apr (#30) only (if RC-F entrant is reduced to 2)
2. INGING, apr(#30) and LM Corsa (if the rumor are true)

[Beryl]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

According to Autosport magazine preview,
Dome (#18) will withdraw from SGT.
HRD SAKURA research institute might launch a new works team.
http://www.as-books.jp/books/sample.php?no=AST20141128

Thanks for the info. HRD Sakura makes more sense than Studie entering GT500 prematurely.

[TF110]

Not sure entirely on the teams using the RC F, but the rumors were 4 teams have bought one. There in among them is suppose to be one in Europe. So I think 3 teams (cars total) in gt300 is not out of the question!

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Beryl

Thanks for the info. HRD Sakura makes more sense than Studie entering GT500 prematurely.

Exactly! There's still more time for BMW to evaluate on joining the GT500 until they're ready for 2016.

Sure that BMW is taking the initiative, but seeing both Audi and Mercedes not following the Bavarian marque is disappointing, as if they're scared of the Japanese opposition!

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Exactly! There's still more time for BMW to evaluate on joining the GT500 until they're ready for 2016.

Sure that BMW is taking the initiative, but seeing both Audi and Mercedes not following the Bavarian marque is disappointing, as if they're scared of the Japanese opposition!

@MagVanisher

Yes, you are right. There's still more time for BMW to evaluate for joining the GT500 until they're ready for 2016.

If Team Studie are try to participate GT500 for next year but they are not ready for GT500 machine. So I suggest that Team Studie will use the BMW mother chassis at next year. I hoped this is true and acceptable.

Do you agree this post?? If disagree please state the reason here

[TF110]

Bmw mother chassis for gt300 or gt500? If its the latter, that makes no sense since theyre (gt500) on a common tub. Even gt300 makes no sense since they have the z4 gt3.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Sure that BMW is taking the initiative, but seeing both Audi and Mercedes not following the Bavarian marque is disappointing, as if they're scared of the Japanese opposition!

Why should Audi and Merc care?

[MagVanisher]

I know that both Audi and Mercedes are focusing on the domestic market (apart from Le Mans and Formula One, respectively), but seeing them stuck in DTM is disappointing.

Well, it's their call on not going oversees like Japan or the USA.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by TF110

Bmw mother chassis for gt300 or gt500? If its the latter, that makes no sense since theyre (gt500) on a common tub. Even gt300 makes no sense since they have the z4 gt3.

Yes, I mentioned about the BMW Mother chassis of GT300. But my opinion can be BMW mother chassis also because they need to maintain competitiveness of the car since mother chassis can be updated. But for Z4 GT3 (FIA-GT3) the competitiveness will maintain 2 years only.

[MagVanisher]

@AkioAsakura95

Sorry to say this, but your opinion regarding BMW opting for a GT300 mother chassis is flawed.

The mother chassis is meant for low-budget teams, not like Team Studie which are backed by BMW.

[Japanese Samurai]

GSR (#0) says that BMW Z4 of 2014 victory chassis will be preserved as collection.
So, they will buy new chassis for 2015.

[MagVanisher]

Let's hope that Good Smile Racing will buy one of the Lexus RC-F GT3 cars.

Still, it's the end of an era for Hatsune Miku Z4...

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

GSR (#0) says that BMW Z4 of 2014 victory chassis will be preserved as collection.
So, they will buy new chassis for 2015.

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Let's hope that Good Smile Racing will buy one of the Lexus RC-F GT3 cars.

Still, it's the end of an era for Hatsune Miku Z4...

Its very common about the victory chassis preservation since BMW has changed the new model to M6 GT3 for 2016 SUPER GT season as well as Team Taisan will preserve the ENDLESS TAISAN PORSCHE as collection.

Then GSR will buy RC-F GT3 or the new chassis for next year. But they don't know whether success or not for the new chassis for 2015 or RC-F GT3

If the new chassis is unsuccessful for next year then they will purchase the new chassis like BMW M6 GT3 or something for SUPER GT 2016 season??? (since BMW M6 GT3 is debuted for next year and also can be order for next year (if the new chassis is unsuccessful))

And how do you know this rumors here???

[Deleted]

Having the usual GSR anime themes on GT500 car would be rather nice, and make it stand out. The RC-F especially as it's IMO the blandest looking of the three

[DS"]

I find it somewhat strange that the German motorsports media hasn't picked up on the BMW-to-GT500-rumours. I guess the times, where every little rumour that involved the DTM was reported are over. Maybe Radio Le Mans doesn't have such a good journalistic reputation at all (Not my opinion, just a guess )...

In any case, I don't see why BMW should build an all-new SuperGT car from the ground up. Yes, there are some differences between a DTM and a GT500 car. But BMW can easily modify the external difference and I'm sure that they can develop a 2.0l R4 turbo in a rather short amount of time. They could just modify their WTCC engine after all (If it works...). As for the drivers: I'd guess that BMW would hire drivers with experience on DTM cars and pair them with Japanese drivers, who know the courses. Candidates would be guys like Andy Priaulx, Dirk Werner, Joey Hand and so on.

Overall, it'd be really nice to see BMW in SuperGT and yes, I hope that Mercedes and Audi follow suit. That way, they could help SuperGT to conquer the Asian market, without having to drag DTM to Asia. But I guess Mercedes doesn't have enough money, while Audi will point to the Audi R8 LMS Cup as a "proof" of their existing engagement in Asia.

[carbsmith]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

GSR (#0) says that BMW Z4 of 2014 victory chassis will be preserved as collection.
So, they will buy new chassis for 2015.

Well, they have at least 2 Z4s as it is, but I assume there's an implication there.


The Z4 is a lame duck car and if BMW wants to run GT500 their support may dry up in general to cover Studie's higher budget needs.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by carbsmith

Well, they have at least 2 Z4s as it is, but I assume there's an implication there.


The Z4 is a lame duck car and if BMW wants to run GT500 their support may dry up in general to cover Studie's higher budget needs.

Huh... how to they get the second BMW Z4 GT3 2014 model one?

Then why they use for the new chassis since next year is the final year of BMW Z4 GT3?? (BMW Z4 GT3 replaced by M6 GT3 by 2016)

But if Team Studie participate GT500 can BMW Z4 GT3 for GT300 is no longer used by other team???

[MagVanisher]

@carbsmith

Here's a thing for BMW to support Team Studie on their GT500 efforts.

They can either pull out from DTM (which is the easiest part), or make a request to the ITR that they should limit their cars in DTM to just 6 (which is harder to pull) so they can put their money on supporting 2 cars in the GT500 class.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

@carbsmith

Here's a thing for BMW to support Team Studie on their GT500 efforts.

They can either pull out from DTM (which is the easiest part), or make a request to the ITR that they should limit their cars in DTM to just 6 (which is harder to pull) so they can put their money on supporting 2 cars in the GT500 class.

Then who pull out form DTM??? In my opinion, the best way is make a request to the ITR that they should limit their cars its ok,

So Team Studie can put their money on supporting 2 cars in the GT500 class but which car do Team Studie used???

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

@carbsmith

Here's a thing for BMW to support Team Studie on their GT500 efforts.

They can either pull out from DTM (which is the easiest part), or make a request to the ITR that they should limit their cars in DTM to just 6 (which is harder to pull) so they can put their money on supporting 2 cars in the GT500 class.

3) Drag the money from elsewhere if GT500 is so important for them

Ditching efforts from their core German market area for domestic Japanese series wouldn't make any sense (as much as I despise DTM and everything it has). And as for reducing cars, IIRC this year BMW and Audi were already *****ing about Merc only fielding 7 cars instead of 8

[TF110]

Why would bmw have to take resources from anywhere to run in gt500? Maybe they grant a budget to this program?

[MagVanisher]

This is a problem for BMW regarding their potential support to Team Studie in the GT500 class.

For one, they can bring their expertise such as drivers and engineers to help Team Studie since they have familiarity with Super GT's race procedures. According to carbsmith, he's worried that the budget will dry up when supporting Team Studie. While I'm suggesting to free up some of their DTM efforts for BMW like reducing the number of their cars to 6, I guess that my suggestion would not work.

Personally, a 50/50 effort between BMW and Team Studie with regards to resources (Just hoping that the latter has enough money to cover the costs) would be an ideal solution when taking on Nissan, Lexus, and Honda.

[AkioAsakura95]

In Yasuaki BOB Suzuki facebook:
Its seem that he will test the BMW M4 DTM for the next year, the testing driver is Seiji Ara and he will drive a BMW M4 DTM(refer to the second photo)
So Team Studie might participate GT500 class for next year or 2016

https://www.facebook.com/yasuaki.b.suzuki?fref=ts

[Japanese Samurai]

Autosport magazine silly season report

**GT500
*Honda
-Dome withdraw from GT500. HRD Sakura will become a new works team (Kogure?/Yamamoto?).
-Takuya Izawa participate in GP2 also this year. Honda might send 2nd Japanese driver (Tsukakoshi?) to GP2.
-Tomoki Nojiri might step up to GT500.
-Fred Mako want to race in SGT.
-#32 pairing won't change.

*Nissan
-Michael Krumm will participate in WEC. 3rd car of Nissan LM24 might be GT500 drivers team.
-Nissan will do a rookie test for GT500. (Christian Klien?, Lucas Ordóñez?, Tristan Vautier?)
-#12, #23 and #46 pairing won't change.

*Lexus
-Driver lineup of Lexus will be re-shuffled.
-#36 and #37 pairing won't change.
-Ryo Hirakawa might step up to GT500 alternate for Oliver Jarvis.
-Yuji Kunimoto joins in the team Cerumo (#38). And Kohei Hirate is out.

**GT300
*Mother chassis:
-Team Toyota Thailand (GT-86)
-Mooncraft/Cars Tokai (#2, Lotus) ?
-Team MACH (#5, GT-86) ?
-Team SAMURAI/Tsuchiya Engineering (#25, GT-86) (Confirmed)
*RC-F GT3:
-INGING ?
-LM corsa (#60) ?
-GSR (#0) ?
-Le Beausset ?
*GTR GT3 user will decrease because of the repeated trouble and the expensive update kit.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Autosport magazine silly season report

**GT300
*Mother chassis:
-Team Toyota Thailand (GT-86)
-Mooncraft/Cars Tokai (#2, Lotus) ?
-Team MACH (#5, GT-86) ?
-Team SAMURAI/Tsuchiya Engineering (#25, GT-86) (Confirmed)
*RC-F GT3:
-INGING ?
-LM corsa (#60) ?
-GSR (#0) ?
-Le Beausset ?
*GTR GT3 user will decrease because of the repeated trouble and the expensive update kit.

Here is the list of using GT-R GT3 for 2014 season
-NDDP, Team Mach(out) , apr (#30) , DIJON Racing , Team Taisan (out) and Tomei Sports

But in my opinion, will apr (#30) use RC-F GT3 as the alternation for the LM Corsa RC-F team because it mentioned that GTR GT3 user will decrease because of the repeated trouble and the expensive update kit??? (since the rumors says that next season have 3 RC-F GT3 user only but how about Le Beausset will the team can alternate decision for GSR team?)

But for sure its not suggested that GSR will buy the new chassis because next year is the final year of the BMW Z4 GT3 and it will replaced by the powerful BMW M6 GT3 also they have a 2 BMW Z4 GT3 chassis so the other one is preserved as collection is enough but can Team Studie (#7) stepped up to GT500???

But what is the (?) means for the RC-F GT3 chassis?