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24 Jul 2008, 20:53 (Ref:2257390) | #1 | |
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Who deserves to be paid for their BTCC drive
As you know nearly all the field actually pay for their BTCC drives so lets assume the situation is changed and now they are paid, who do you think is worthy of the employment? and who would you bring to replace the dropped drivers?
My list is Giovarnadi Neal Onslow Cole Plato Turkington Shedden Kane Jordan Sr Jordan Jr Adam Jones Matt Allison The rest I would drop. Bring in: Murray Matt Allison Dan Eves Anthony Reid Ben Winrow Gareth Howell |
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24 Jul 2008, 21:07 (Ref:2257394) | #2 | ||
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List 1 - what to happened to Mat Jackson? Andy Jordan isn't exactly setting the world on fire at the moment, although he isn't the star underperfomer - Stephen Jelley is badly failing in the second WSR car, probably was a terrible career move after doing GP2 Asia.
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I would personally remove Kane from the list, and possibly both Jordans. In their place I would put Mat Jackson, and consider Chilton. Also, do you think the likes of Priaulx et al. should be included in the list of worthy drivers?
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Interesting Idea.
I'd add Collard to that list, he's doing at least as well as Kane. I think Stockton's doing a good job as well considering what he's driving. As for Allison, he's never really impressed me, seemed solid but not particularly quick. I'd love to see that lot back as well, I'd probibly add Carl Breeze to that list, and I'd love to see Anthony Reid back. |
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Not that sure about Allison - surprised to see Turner isn't in your list. I'd say half his troubles are down to car faults, he's quite often just as quick as Plato.
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Tom Chilton would be on my list for sure, as would Darren Turner. From the orginal list I would drop Allison and the Jordan's.
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24 Jul 2008, 22:39 (Ref:2257451) | #7 | ||
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Mat Allison appears on both lists, I'd guess that the Matt Allison on the first list is supposed to be Mat Jackson
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No Boardman in the second list?! And also is Hodget's good season in Clios last year that easily forgotten?
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chilton?!!?!?!?! No way! For a start i dont think he will be able to continue to be a racing driver for much longer as helmets can only be made so big and his head seems to swell evertime i see him, without reason as well as he really doesnt set the world on fire!
I believe Kane deserves payment, as does Stockton, and Doyle could suprise a few if he had a better car! As for returnees, definately Murry! Simon |
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25 Jul 2008, 11:53 (Ref:2257702) | #10 | |
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Sorry for leaving Matt Jackson out, he would be in the list of being paid,
Boardman a good choice, Hodgetts I didnt rate from his time in the BTCC before. Matt Allison on both lists as he has driven this year and may return or may not! Collard, Im not sure about especially being over shadowed by Turkinton and Kane as team mates for the last few years. Turner has done better this year but I felt last years performance did not warrant a second chance. |
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if all these drivers were paid we'd have a grid full of manufacturers and that would be good!
i'd love to see reido back in a works drive 'hustling' his way through the pack. |
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no Jonathan Adam????? the man has been clio champ, seat champ and after a run of bad luck this year thanks to an old car and new car probs is hot on Rob Lawson in this year's cup. also fast in every car he has ever tested
if given a BTCC drive in a half decent car Jonathan will win races as that si what he does best WIN |
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pay Micky Doyle, Huffy, Johnny Adam, Ben Winrow, Phil Bennet, Steven Kane, TOC, Tom Boardman and Martyn Byford (and I would have to say Rob Lawson) and remove all the bigheaded ones.... Gio, Neal, Plato, Turner, Jelley, Jordans (marginal that though).
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25 Jul 2008, 20:12 (Ref:2257911) | #14 | ||
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When you consider that guys like Murray and Allison are without a drive, it seems like a shame that Jelley got the WSR opportunity. I don't think he's ever going to adapt now.
Mike Jordan's a very good driver, but ideally would have been in BTCC long-term 20 years ago. Andy Jordan's already good, but won't be worthy of a works drive for 2-3 years yet. Of course, this is all quite moot - if there was a works BMW team (for example) they would use at least 1 of their contracted international drivers, rather than British series veterans. |
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Good points raised here, Murray I understand is racing in a WTCC support race series in a Seat, with the right budget I still think his Alfa would have been there in BTCC mixing it up with Adam Jones, Allison like so many has been caught out by the credit crunch but if he continues in the clios will be a threat to Winrow. The situation at WSR and Jelley survies only due to money, I am suprised his backers continue to fund this venture and that title sponsers RAC have not asked for him to be removed. He has had long enough now and its not worked out. Had they been able to retain Onslow Cole the team would now be giving Seat a run for their money..such a waste of a good car with other drivers capable of being much quicker.It is all about money and nothing else in this situation. A BMW works set up may happen in time but it proberbly needs Honda to full commit and another manufacturer, as things stand BMW PR is doing very well with 4 BMW's up their at the front so is it worth the Investment? With all the drivers mentioned as deserving a drive what a field you could build, one thing I would love to see in BTCC is a guest drive at each round like in the Porsche series this would allow talent to step forward, Seat for example could run a third car on this basis and with a bit of rule tweaking in that ther car ran with no weight on entering and all points counted towards manufacturer championship this would help justify it and allow all the drivers mentioned a crack at it in a quick car. Job done! |
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First can some1 come up with the list of actually paid drivers and than we can think of who we can add to that list.
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From reading posts before on the subject I think all who are paid are:
Giovanardi Neal Plato Turner Turkington |
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26 Jul 2008, 23:14 (Ref:2258319) | #20 | |
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What about the Honda boys? Neither of them getting a salary either?
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Both bring sponsorship as far as I know. Although I imagine they both take a cut of that wad of sponsorship cash!
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27 Jul 2008, 10:59 (Ref:2258474) | #24 | |
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Keep:
Plato Jones (give him a works drive with Seat, running 3 cars) Turner Neal Gio TOC Jackson Kane Collard Shedden Turkington Doyle (in a good car) and of course John George then bring in... Reid Menu Rydell Tarquini Huff Harvey Byford Winrow Bridgeman Eaves Murray (Michael) Bentwood What a championship that would be. It would never happen though! lol |
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Stef Hodgetts drove a good race in clios just then. After that and his win in the Porsches at Croft, he deserves to be in the BTCC.
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