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Old 8 Jan 2019, 19:42 (Ref:3874794)   #251
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It was called "flagging out" trucks were registered in Holland and paid £600 a year tax instead of the £3000+ that we had to pay here.

It was this very topic that had me sitting with Kent CC head honcho Paul Carter as mentioned previously. KCC had rather mischievously announced that they were going to flag out all council vehicles to Belgium as they were legally obliged to source the best deal when spending ratepayer's money. It was all b****cks of course ( must have been Labour in govt at the time and Tory KCC wanting to make a point) but I believe it went some way towards changing govt thinking on the tax hauliers paid, which by any reckoning was hugely out of step with Europe.
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Old 8 Jan 2019, 19:59 (Ref:3874795)   #252
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We could do with a bit of that sort of approach now!
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Old 9 Jan 2019, 19:02 (Ref:3875024)   #253
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I’m assuming Peter that it’s the goods on board that will incur checks, regardless of the country of origin of the truck? So if, for example, a Hungarian truck crosses from here to France loaded with British goods, it will be subject to same checks as a UK registered wagon would have been?

THere's a clip on FB (posted by one of the "leave" groups, obviously, but it could be true ) of the Calais port boss refuting point blank that there will be any delays on trucks entering France....There's a video clip but I can't seem to copy it * ....quote "Calais port boss, Jean Marc Puissesseau drops truth bomb on hysterical claims of chaos at the border in the event of No Deal: "It's wrong! It's not true! There will not be more delay. The trucks will be passing as they do today.""


* Might be able to view it here: https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuoffi...0433133816231/
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Old 9 Jan 2019, 19:12 (Ref:3875029)   #254
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All over Twitter too. It does support my previous point that Europe doesn't want to lose the UK.
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Old 9 Jan 2019, 20:52 (Ref:3875050)   #255
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All over Twitter too. It does support my previous point that Europe doesn't want to lose the UK.
And the last thing Calais want is to be bought to a standstill by gridlocked trucks......
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Old 9 Jan 2019, 21:11 (Ref:3875056)   #256
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Old 9 Jan 2019, 22:08 (Ref:3875070)   #257
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On the other hand checking all the trucks would be one way to gain some control over immigration.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-46815584


And maybe School Ski trips should be thoroughly checked too.


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Old 10 Jan 2019, 05:38 (Ref:3875119)   #258
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On the other hand checking all the trucks would be one way to gain some control over immigration.
Calais and Dunkirk probably make the most effort of all the ports I've used when it comes to checking trucks for stowaways. All FREIGHT goes through one shed at Calais with customs staff armed with detection equipment, and at Dunkirk it is checked twice! Coaches are not subject to the same checks, neither are cars, private vans, trailers- but they are randomly opened up at check in. Sometimes I've had to open up the trailer twice, sometimes not at all.


Other Ports like Ouistreham and Bilbao do check freight, but again, not to such a consistent standard. I wonder what the checks are at The Hook and Zebrugge, considering they are not in the areas mainly targeted by migrants....
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Old 10 Jan 2019, 06:12 (Ref:3875122)   #259
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Agreed about Calais and Dunkerque, there are several teams working hard and doing good. Yes, it doesn't work 24 H and seven days but at least some good people got the right training. They split the trafic with a good efficiency and they do know that, for instance, a Vito and a race shuttle are no freight.
As to people announcing chaos turning themselves into Nostradamus of the Brexit, drop dead, let them go to hell. You can prepare yourselves to see adjustments after, probably a matter of days or months.

When Peter says EU doesn't want you to leave, do you think its because Germany or France suddenly felt in love with You or because they just realized how much they need your money? Good question for the Jeopardy version under twelve… .
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I refer back to my point about France not getting its Welsh wings.

But generally it appears businesses are taking all this on board and resolving the problems.
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When Peter says EU doesn't want you to leave, do you think its because Germany or France suddenly felt in love with You or because they just realized how much they need your money? Good question for the Jeopardy version under twelve… .
Germany seems to have a few problems keeping the powerhouse powering.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-collapse.html


But then that appears to be a problem in several other places too, not least China.

It is starting to look like the near future could become very 'interesting' for all the wrong reasons, both locally in Europe and globally.
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It's because businesses and governments have pinned their hopes on China.
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Germany, Greece, Italy, France.....

How about having a vote on us leaving the EU?
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How about having a vote on us leaving the EU?

The what?
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OK, I suppose the word ‘Union’ is stretching it a bit........
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This thingy gives a lot of work,ya no. With more than 10 thousands of lobbyists officially registered at Brussels, may be its the biggest employer of the area…
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Probably best spelt with an O, Mike, the way they bring tears to your eyes.
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Probably best spelt with an O, Mike, the way they bring tears to your eyes.

And the layers of bureaucracy.
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And when you have peeked them all away...………….nothing there.
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I hope no one is preparing something around the different types of driving licences. Like a special exam do drive in UK. Reason could be the different sides-trafic and steering wheel- and so on…
What has been posted as to the trailers looks the same as we have, a result of harmonisation around this.
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Back to trucks being checked, wonder which port the truck with 43 illegals on board came through. Time to bring back the Xray machines!!
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Terence, I wondered the same thing. (If you’re talking about the truck on the M6 couple of days ago? Our media mentions 27 detained....) No mention of the where the truck came from, but driver arrested was ‘of no fixed abode’, which suggests not British......

But as said earlier, Calais and Dunkirk have very sophisticated equipment to detect stowaways. I’d be surprised if at either of those ports, but I’ve no idea how vigilant the Euro ports serving the UK East coast are....

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According to one paper this morning the Branston experiment cost £50k to stage- £550 paid to each truck operator. Would just about have covered my fuel costs from here....
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What has been posted as to the trailers looks the same as we have, a result of harmonisation around this.

Harmonisation would be soooo much easier if only fully automated travel pods were allowed on the travelways.
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While following the Dubai 24 hrs livestream I thought I'd do some research on carnets. The following applies, especially Section 5.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nd-cpd-carnets

Before I ring them blind on Monday, does anyone know somebody at CARS who could give us the low-down, costs, time to issue etc?
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