Brabham BT30

[Andrew Fellowes]

2 Updates, thanks goes to Ian Henderson.

BT30-11, John Watson, now David McLaughlin UK
BT30-25, Rolf Stommelen, now David Worrad UK & being restored.

[Ted Walker]

I owned BT35X-2 after my BT30. It ended up with a BDA engine and was used by Shaun Mooney in Euro F2. Tony Griffiths I beleive ordrered and received a BT30 but as it was to be used on the "hills" it was designated an "X" No by Brabhams. I also owned the BT30X It was basically a modified BT23 fitted with 23 Bodywork to take the 2 Litre V8 Climax. It was later fitted with a Buick and even later was "cloned" into 2 Cars.

[Bryan Miller]

Before I venture to BT36 territory , sorry Andrew , I needed to advise a few things.

The Mike Lawrence book , of which Ron T. was quite complimentary about to me at Eastern Creek a few weeks ago has production lists , I also have , which Mike probably used , thought Ron T. 3 very large sheets apparently commisioned by Bernie E. some time after he purchased Brabhams, and these sheets , painstakingly done in hand , give details in regard to model number , production volume , tracks , wheelbases , fuel tankage ,etc.etc.
Mostly appears the same in the Lawrence book.

If we take the production figures for the cars we are discussing , we get .

BT30 ,1969 , F2 , 26 off , which seems correct as we have numbers 1-12 and 14-27 , gives 26 off .
BT30X , 1969 .H.C. 2 off , but fuel tanks are listed as 20 galls.Both cars with Cosworth FVC according to sheets.

Bryan.

[Andrew Fellowes]

OK Bryan, back to the cart horse thing again. YeHa.

BT30-15 now with Richard Kendle UK(thanks James) and BT30-3 now with Mike Caromdy East Coast USA(thanks Ian).

That now gives 18 of the 26 BT30s reasonably well accounted for (if you accept the trashed ones have not done a Lazarus). And that in just 3 days. Recent race results suggest that there are a couple more in the States, same again in Europe and at least one in Japan. What may be more difficult is the 'who did what' bit given that BT30 drivers seem to have been very promiscous in 1970.
All very worthwhile & rewarding stuff, Andrew

[DAVID FORCE]

David McKinney thinks I should know so...BT30 number 11 has now been added to David Brown's Brabham stable and BT 30 number 15 has been restored by its original drver Bob Salisbury this year and is owned by Richard Kendle.

[Andrew Fellowes]

1 more located;

BT30 ex Howden Ganley (30-24?) Gerard Cerny France

[Bryan Miller]

Other stuff, just before the BT36's, but will include some.

BT29-23 FB Cosworth FVC , entered in Tasman by Fred opert Racing for Evan Noyes as 1850cc.
At the 36th. Australian G.P. 21-11-1971 , Warwick Farm , now with Graeme Lawrence [ N.Z. ] but called a BT30 FVC 1800cc. Used by Lawrence around S.E. Asia , to David Sharp N.Z. at least before 1988 , still retained and for sale on internet.

Japan Brabham entities.

At least one is easy , Noritake Takahara in BT 36-12 in the Tasman Series early 1973.

In Japan. Japanese G.P. 3-5-1972 also has Takahara albeit with a Mitsubishi eng.
In 1973 , Japan, 3-5-1973 .
Bellco Racing Team , Kuniomu Nagamatsu BT36 , Mitsubishi R39B-11.
Bellco Racing Team , Osama Masuko BT30 , Mitsubishi R39B-11.
Noritake Takahara BT36 , Ford BDA.

At 11-11-1973 , Japan still Takahara and Nagamatsu.
By May 1974 Takahara is in his March 742 .
At Fuji , 28-7-1974 we now have Yoshimasa Kawaguchi in BT36 BDA , being a suspicious type could be ex. Takahara BT36-12???.
At the J.A.F. G.P 3-11-1974 .
Yoshimasa Kawaguchi - BT36 Ford BDA.
Kikuo Kaira - BT36 Ford BDA.

At the Japanese G.P. 3-5-1975.
Shigeaki Asaoka - BT36-Ford BDA.note Nagamatsu now in March 742.
At Fuji 13-7-1975 , Shigeaki Asaoka BT36-12 [ F1R ].

At I Nishinihon Formula Champion Race 1-5-1977.
Kiyoshi Misaki BT36- Cosworth FVA, and also 5-6-1977 at Fuji.

Lunch Time.

Bryan.

[Bryan Miller]

Macau.

All references Philip Newsome from his book Colour and Noise.Except ch.no. notes.

16-11-1969.
A Poon BT30-5 , ex. Piers Courage.
29-11-1970 .
Poon retains , but damaged in practice and uses BT21 in race.
21-11-1971.
Poon still reatains.
26-11-1972.
A Poon BT30-5 .
J.McDonald BT36 - photo shows very Rondel style nose.
R. Ohkubo , BT28.
18-11-1973.
A. Poon Brabham F2. ??????????????
McDonald in a BT40 , BT36 to ?????????????
K. Misaki , BT30 .
T.Cheng , BT30.

1-12-1974.
Poon and McDonald both now in BT40's.
T. Cheng , BT30.
K. Misaki BT30.

16-11-1975.

Misaki now in BT 40.
J. Ho , BT30.

20-11-1977.

J. Ho in a Brabham. ?????

No more entities further.

I really didn't know where to place this .

BT30-27 .

Ordered by Bob Jane [ Australia ] but delayed delivery due to engine complications , and when finally ex. factory 23-3-1971 with FT200-452 seems to be a full BT36.
Autosport refers to car in Tasman report as BT30/36 .
Driven by John Harvey in Tasman 1972 , fitted with 2.0 Waggott TC/4V eng.
To Autocourse / Denis Lupton / Ian Cook , with a ford twin-cam. Alot more details , however now with Peter Johnson Sydney Australia.2003.

Bryan.

[Bryan Miller]

David.

As always , thank you.

I would like to see the trail of the French ex. Auto. Club Argentina car, BT36-6/-7.
In Australia , if the car was ex. Argentina , and ex. the museum , we would be requiring Bill of Sale at the very least.
Looks like we will have to keep an eye on that one.

I will get back to you re. BT36-1 's adverts. as I just went to check A/S and the Tate adv. is there , but not the Wayne , so I made a typo. re. date and need to check.

To anybody following this thread , I just loved the F1R REASON why a certain driver did not appear in his BT35 BDA at the Nurburgring round of the F2 C/ship 29-4-1973.
Entrant R. James .. Drv. Roy James , DNS. driver in prison.

Bryan.

[Bryan Miller]

More updates.

In the Singapore G.P. report 26-4-1973 , Kiyoshi Misaki is reported in the ex. Kazato BT30 , fitted with a Toyota Celica T/C motor.
Misaki we already knew about , however this is the first ref. to Kazato.
Misaki still has a/some cars into 1977, but by then being called as BT36, or he has sold BT30 and purchased BT36.

Confirmed that at the virtually same time as Martin Webb in his ex. Gerrard BT30 FVA at S/stone sprints , 2-11-1972 , Robert Salisbury is offering for sale the BT35. A/S 23-11-1972.

Bryan.

[Bryan Miller]

BT30-3 , Jim Charnock , using car all the way up to 2-10-1975 , A/S . p.56.
Still leaves big time gap up untill Chris Mann is reported with car 1983.

Very interesting advert. by Bob Howlings/Cheshire Sports Cars A/S. 26-8-1976 , and 7-10-1976 , BT30 FVA for sale , unused for the last 4 years.

Bryan.

[Bryan Miller]

Further update on BT30-11, or described as ex John Watson actually.
For sale A/S. 26-1-1978 p.54.
BT30 ex. John Watson , rolling chassis , superb condition , for sale.

Can anybody advise what BT30 Jim Johnstone , fitted FVA was using in hills circa mid 1978.

Confusing advert. A/S 11-5-1978 , BT30 and BT38 , brand new rolling chassis for sale , I think the adv. refers to only the BT38 as brand new.

Bryan.

[David McKinney]

Originally posted by Bryan Miller
Can anybody advise what BT30 Jim Johnstone , fitted FVA was using in hills circa mid 1978.

No, but Chris Seaman hillclimbed it with a BDA for ten years or so from 1983

And I'm sure I don't need to provide a word of caution re Bobby Howlings. He had lots of small single-seaters at any one time, and I rather got the impression he raced whatever was in stock

[Andrew Fellowes]

The table below is taken from my files of HSCC Pre ’71 entries & results. I have attempted to list which year driver & car first appeared. (I have no results for 1984 as I took that year off).
Can anyone add the missing chassis numbers to the following for me?

1985
BT30-6 Jim Wallis, Brands Hatch (also raced a M19A McLaren that year)
BT30-? Marcus King, Thruxton, & if I remember correctly dark green & wingless
BT30-3 Chris Mann, Snetterton.

1986
BT30-8 Andrew Fellowes, Oulton Park,

1990
BT30-? Michael Baudoin at the Nuerburgring on the 9th August.

[David McKinney]

I was trotting around paddocks with my little notebook throughout the period, but can't add as much as I hoped I might:

1985
BT30-6 Jim Wallis, Brands Hatch (also raced a M19A McLaren that year)
BT30-20 Marcus King, Thruxton, & if I remember correctly dark green & wingless
BT30-3 Chris Mann, Snetterton.

1986
BT30-8 Andrew Fellowes, Oulton Park,

1990
BT30-20 Michael Baudoin at the Nuerburgring on the 9th August.