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1 Nov 2019, 13:48 (Ref:3938000)
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I've compiled a list of chassis that have competed this year in Europe. I've made some renaming and research outside from the various confusing MEL documents for clarification
LMP1/LMP900
Dallara SP1 Judd
Lola B07/18 Judd
Lola B09/60 Aston Martin
Lola B12/60 Mazda
Norma M2000 Ford
Pescarolo 01 Judd
Peugeot 908 HDI FAP
LMP2/LMP675
Courage LC75 Judd
Lola B12/80 Judd
Lola B2K/40 Nissan-AER
Lucchini LMP2-04 Judd
MG Lola EX257 AER
Onroak-Ligier JSP2 Judd
Oreca(Courage) 03 Nissan
Pilbeam MP91 Judd
Pilbeam MP93 Judd
Porshe RS Spyder
LMPC
Oreca FLM09 Chevrolet
LMGTP
Bentley EXP Speed 8
LMGT1/LMGTS/GT
Aston Martin DBR9
Ferrari 550 GTS Maranello
Maserati MC12
LMGTE/LMGT2/LMGT/N-GT
Aston Martin Vantage GT2
BMW M3 GTR
Ferrari 360 GT
Ferrari 430 GT2
Ferrari 458 GTE
Morgan Aero 8
Porsche 996 RSR
Porsche 996 GT3 RSR
Porsche 997 GT3 RSR
TVR T400R
Other cars (much older or otherwise not fitting ACO classes)
Aston Martin AMR1
Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
Aston Martin Vantage GT4
Audi R8 GT3 LMS Ultra
"Chevrolet Corvette" (GT2 2005) * (wtf is this, I looked at some video and it looks like GT3)
Ferrari 458 GT3
McLaren MP4-12C GT3
Porsche 993 GT2 EVO
Ultima GTR
It was nice to found out that the ex LMP team Race Performance is still ocassionally running their old protos in historics. Some other bigger former team name here and there as well
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2 Nov 2019, 11:38 (Ref:3938105)
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wtf is that 2005 GT2 Corvette?
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2 Nov 2019, 12:07 (Ref:3938116)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchi_S
wtf is that 2005 GT2 Corvette?
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IDK here's what it listed for Europe
77 Methley David GB Chevrolet Corvette 2005 7000 G2/GT2
And for this weekend's COTA race
777 Methley, David GB Chevrolet Corvette C6 Grid 3/GT Yellow 2005 7000
In results document for Spa it lists it's only competitor in the class being 2002 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (G2/GT2), but in other press release it says it won the "GT2 category" over Ferrari 430 GT2 (G3/GT2)
Anyway I think it's this
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/autos...82454235426311
Last edited by Chiana; 2 Nov 2019 at 12:15.
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3 Nov 2019, 01:41 (Ref:3938237)
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Only car I could think of is a couple years later with the Giglotti built GT2s being 07 or 08s I think. Only other thing is the number just divisions that also use GT2 in the US and it being an SCCA or TransAm car.
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3 Nov 2019, 05:39 (Ref:3938272)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by broadrun96
Only car I could think of is a couple years later with the Giglotti built GT2s being 07 or 08s I think. Only other thing is the number just divisions that also use GT2 in the US and it being an SCCA or TransAm car.
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Or the Marklund car from Denmark that appeared one year in LMES possibly? Mind you the Marklund car was more of a road car so I’m leaning towards it being an LG car
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3 Nov 2019, 16:01 (Ref:3938325)
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It's most definitely not the Riley GT2 Corvette
Anyway you can see it making the turn here this weekend, just after the black Corvette C5-R GT1/GTS
https://youtu.be/4TslAGIfrHQ?t=48
Would be great opportunity for more F1 fans to see these amazing cars... if they weren't binned to 8am starting slots when F1 sessions are in the afternoon...
Last edited by Chiana; 3 Nov 2019 at 16:07.
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13 Nov 2019, 22:42 (Ref:3940498)
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The USA series is at HSR Daytona 24 this weekend which means they've been thrown to very confusing categories, groups E and F and their further sub mishmashes
http://hsrrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2019-Entry-List-to-Post-by-Group-11.6.19.pdf
http://hsrrace.com/wp-content/uploads/Classic-24-Groups-2019-FINAL-11.6.19.pdf
C5-R, C6.R GT1 and C7.R all in one weekend, just C6.R GT2 is missing (unless it's there somewhere as the list is all over the place)
Will Lanky be filming this weekend I wonder
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16 Nov 2019, 11:00 (Ref:3940909)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiana
Will Lanky be filming this weekend I wonder
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Yes 
https://youtu.be/qq6Rorf0RKI
Masters FB:
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20 Nov 2019, 11:11 (Ref:3941753)
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2020 calendar has been released for Europe
17/19 April – Portugal Historic Racing Weekend, Portimão, Portugal
8/10 May – Monza Four Hours (ELMS Support), Monza, Italy
17/19 July – Paul Ricard Four Hours (ELMS Support), Paul Ricard, France
31 July/2 August – Silverstone Classic, Silverstone, UK
4/6 September – Historic Grand Prix, Zandvoort, Holland
25/27 September – Spa Six Hours, Spa, Belgium
So 2x ELMS supports and some returning historic meetings and new Portimao
Last edited by Chiana; 20 Nov 2019 at 11:18.
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7 Dec 2019, 14:01 (Ref:3945374)
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Interiew with the series founder and Nic regarding the 2020 season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-keDvZoIY
The heavy penalizing of pro-drivers rule for 2020 and acceptance of more modern GT3 cars is annoying but can we lived with I guess
Meanwhile that was one mixed top 5 grid in qualifying at Sebring this weekend
1) Lola B07/18 LMP1 1:51.698
2) Peugeot 908 HDI FAP LMP1 1:52.930
3) Coyote-Corvette DP 2:00.960
4) Audi R8 LMP1 2:02.635
5) Oreca FLM09 LMPC 2:03.080
Onboad with the said Lola
https://www.facebook.com/MastersHist...type=2&theater
Last edited by Chiana; 7 Dec 2019 at 14:22.
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7 Dec 2019, 15:16 (Ref:3945380)
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Pretty wide margin between 1st and 5th. I'd probably make more effort to follow this is if there was a better effort to bring the performance of the different chassis closer together.
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7 Dec 2019, 15:35 (Ref:3945383)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seanyb505
Pretty wide margin between 1st and 5th. I'd probably make more effort to follow this is if there was a better effort to bring the performance of the different chassis closer together.
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And I'd stop following this immediately if they started manipulating it like every other series involving non-spec cars is doing now. It's good as it is
Anyway obviously most of the gaps come from these amateur drivers and people looking after their priced possessions. We all know Peugeot 908 would not be losing to older Lolas otherwise and so on
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8 Dec 2019, 10:53 (Ref:3945552)
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Twas a thickly veiled bop joke to get exactly that response from you lol
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8 Dec 2019, 11:10 (Ref:3945556)
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It's hard to tell a joke nowadays 
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