[Official] Austrian Grand Prix: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Round 9 of 21

[CaptRustyNail]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

We have been under investigation for over an hour.

Maybe they are waiting for the 1000s of dutch fans to leave so they dont cause a riot if they do penalise him....

The dutch do go big on support at sporting events... nice too see.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by CaptRustyNail

Maybe they are waiting for the 1000s of dutch fans to leave so they dont cause a riot if they do penalise him....

The dutch do go big on support at sporting events... nice too see.

Is there a regulation for the maximum time allowed for an investigation? Who will police the stewards? I vote for Vettel.

[marcel82]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Max is under investigation for violation of article 38.1, which is the same regulation Vettel was penalised using.

We have been under investigation for over an hour.

well, how many pages is that Haynes manual?

[MCWB]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

We have been under investigation for over an hour.

The hearing starts in 20 min.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Max is under investigation for violation of article 38.1, which is the same regulation Vettel was penalised using.

We have been under investigation for over an hour.

Maybe they are waiting for the crowd to disperse. If they rule against Max, the Stewards wouldn't want their office attacked by the Orange Army.

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Max is under investigation for violation of article 38.1, which is the same regulation Vettel was penalised using.

We have been under investigation for over an hour.

Max never left the track, so it can't be the same rule

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by steve nielsen

Max never left the track, so it can't be the same rule

It can be. Because it is.



https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...hGG6oYkZs.html

The race director may report any on-track incident or suspected breach of these SportingRegulations or the Code (an “Incident”) to the stewards. After review it shall be at thediscretion of the stewards to decide whether or not to proceed with an investigation.

[sparkione]

You can't take anything away from Max – it was a fantastic performance and a great race. Just what was needed after the French farce. However... Max took a massively wide line into the corner, didn't go anywhere near the apex and left Charles nowhere to go. No F1 driver will brake in a situation like that, for heaven's sake. You have to give each other room (like Lando and Lewis on lap 1 in the same place). It will be hugely controversial if they rule in Charles's favour and hand him the race. But the basic rules have to apply. If they rule for Max, I'll equally feel gutted for Charles – his was a brilliant drive too.

[Akrapovic]

No further action.

There are endurance races that take less time than it took the stewards to announce no penalty.

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by sparkione

You can't take anything away from Max – it was a fantastic performance and a great race. Just what was needed after the French farce. However... Max took a massively wide line into the corner, didn't go anywhere near the apex and left Charles nowhere to go. No F1 driver will brake in a situation like that, for heaven's sake. You have to give each other room (like Lando and Lewis on lap 1 in the same place). It will be hugely controversial if they rule in Charles's favour and hand him the race. But the basic rules have to apply. If they rule for Max, I'll equally feel gutted for Charles – his was a brilliant drive too.

He took a wider line because he braked later and on the inside.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by steve nielsen

He took a wider line because he braked later and on the inside.

He went to the outside because he was on the inside?

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

He went to the outside because he was on the inside?

you obviously never raced yourself, otherwise you would know exactly what I'm saying.

the racing line is outside, inside- outside



but since Max started on the inside he had a wider line through the rest of the corner, just very simple racing facts.

[Akrapovic]

I'm not a racer, plz explain. If it is outside-inside-outside, then why did do inside-outside-outside? Why did he not take the racing line?

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I'm not a racer, plz explain. If it is outside-inside-outside, then why did do inside-outside-outside? Why did he not take the racing line?

how would you see ANY overtaking if everyone just followed the racing line?

dude, you don't get it at all, like you watched your first race today

[Akrapovic]

Ah, so he didn't take the racing line because there was a car there I understand now. Interesting.

[Purist]

A shallow line on entry led to a wider line on exit, as you would naturally expect.

And at some point, track limits seem like a farce anymore. Leclerc was still on pavement, and quite possibly higher-grip stuff than the racetrack itself.

I think it was maybe Massa who intentionally took to the paved run-off on the exit of the final corner at Fuji to ensure he held his place on the last lap in the wet at the 2007 Japanese GP.

[GT6]

Well that was an enormous change from the last race, could not have been better and even the stewards made the right choice i the end. Simply best F1 race for as long as i can remember.

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Ah, so he didn't take the racing line because there was a car there I understand now. Interesting.

Because he had to overtake a car, yes you are learning, a few more years and you might get what racing is

[Akrapovic]

I'll make a note. "Don't put your car where the other car is".

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I'll make a note. "Don't put your car where the other car is".

or: just keep your car on the outside and try to get the driver overtaking you penalised

[Adam43]

steve, do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf? I think something similar I happening here. Basically someone kept saying something even when it wasn't true so much so that eventually no one took him seriously!

It should be noted that Akrapovic and marcel82 voted for the Max.

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Adam43

steve, do you know the story of the boy who cried wolf? I think something similar I happening here. Basically someone kept saying something even when it wasn't true so much so that eventually no one took him seriously!

It should be noted that Akrapovic and marcel82 voted for the Max.

totaly different situations dear Adam

[Kempi]

The move was not clean but nothing to throw a penalty for. I expected one after the last few decisions but am happy that they did not.

Still do not like Verstappen's driving style because he did it on purpose and still would have preferred a red win.

[Spritle]

If the other car involved was driven by Hamilton, Max would be P2.

[OmerRS]

Exact moment of the contact, I think it is 50-50 because Max could take a tighter line and Charles could stay wider: