Year old Ferrari for Ferrari in first GP

[Nicholas]

So Ferrari will use the F2001... hope TGF didn't put money on the F2002 making it to Oz since he was so sure of it happening...

[Red]

11 votes for "good" (mine included) and 5 for bad... (what exactly means "good" )

Now-now, let's review a little: Williams have a bad chassis, Ferrari are not reliable (McLarn appears to be in a good shape though...)

[Speedworx]

http://www.dailyf1.com/en/news/2002/february/16b.shtml

That url has the reason Ferrari are not using their new car in Melbourne.......

ITS ILLEGAL!

[Red]

How? :confused: That story wouldn't enlighten us.

[drexel]

of course this url...
http://ferrari.rivals.net/default.as...2&stid=8237057
has a different reason.
Mainly the aero-dynamics are'nt ready...no bargeboards/front wing /etc.

[Speedworx]

Its got ot be an illegal car!

Why esle would they decide not to use a car which has been breaking records?

[Mr V]

Originally posted by paulzinho
OK other than TGF who got more podiums than Rubens last year? This guy doesn't get the credit he deserves. And I believe he still has more to offer.

probrbly no one, but then rubens had the most reliable and best all round package as well!

[Red]

Originally posted by hakkiman
Its got ot be an illegal car!

Why esle would they decide not to use a car which has been breaking records?

Hmmm, pick your favorite:
1. It's not reliable
2. They're behind the schedule
3. They don't like the livery
4. Max'n Bernie don't want the championship over before Imola
5. They ran out of red paint so they can't build the second car
6. They're just joking
7. The old car is sooo good
8. The shareholders are not happy with the expenses and decided to get more from the last year's investment
9. Aliens
10. None of the above
11. All of the above

Anyway, other than the title provided by your story, in what way do they proved that the new car is illegal?

[Red]

12. I forgot, sorry: F1-2001 also broke records.

[Don K]

Originally posted by hakkiman
Its got ot be an illegal car!

Why esle would they decide not to use a car which has been breaking records?

Maybe because of the accidents Michael and Rubens had with the new car?
If two of the new chassis have been lost on the same day, I would think that might set their development back for a couple of days.
And if you have 4 drivers available for testing, and if you already have put a lot of work and resources in making the F2001 ready for this season, I think it would be foolish to stop developing the F2001 exactly the moment you might want to start using it.

Basically this is still exactly the same as what Ferrari has been saying throughout the last 4 months: They would try to start the season with the F2002, but keep on working at the F2001 in the meantime.

[Don K]

Originally posted by hakkiman
http://www.dailyf1.com/en/news/2002/february/16b.shtml

That url has the reason Ferrari are not using their new car in Melbourne.......

ITS ILLEGAL!

There must be something wrong with that link.
It is supposed to poin to a "ITS ILLEGAL!"-story.
But when I click on it, I see a "2002 Ferrari legal?"-story.

Looks to me as if for some reason they had to change the text completely, between the time you wrote your post and the time I read your post.

Would you care to tell us what they said in the original story?

[paulzinho]

Why would the car be illegal, sorry Ron has started some conspiracy... tut tut tut.

Anyway has the F2002 done a full race distance yet? Is it even ready yet? Maybe it needs work? Who knows?

IMO Ferrari know what they're doing, I doubt they'd build an illegal car, there haven't been any major rule changes affecting design so i think people are making stories up to suit what they want.

And how on earth would rivals get to see the new parts (eg gearbox). Ron must be bored...

[paulzinho]

Heres a thought, Does this mean that sauber are gonna have an almost identical engine to Ferrari?

[Mr V]

Originally posted by paulzinho
Heres a thought, Does this mean that sauber are gonna have an almost identical engine to Ferrari?

if ferrari had started the new season with their new car, it's quite possible that sauber would have had the best engine in terms of reliability/speed.

[Alan Jones]

Originally posted by Total-F1
[B]

There's also talk of a funny smell coming from TGF's trousers every time Monty get's close

Nice one Total

[Gt_R]

What Ferrari are using are not really the old dated F2001 v1.0, but more of a F2001 v1.7, where v1.4 is used in Suzuka.

Ferrari attempted to run a GP distance with their new car, but encountered some new-car problems. Furthermore, Ferrari had not managed to get the new wing ready, and only had an experimental bargeboard for testing. Rubens had not driven the F2002 due to the extreme lack of time and availability of one chassis, and so, the team and drivers do not fully understand the car's set up to exploit it's performance either.

Thus, due to reliability, performance and set up uncertainty, they chose the F2001 instead.


Only to Ron and co. is the Ferrari illegal...and the reason it is because Ferrari is faster than Mclaren... kinda p*ss Ronny off...

[Total-F1]

Whoever posted that link saying it was "illegal" was giving people the wrong end of the stick.

What Ron Dennis and Ross Brawn are alluding to, is that the new gearbox (which is in the story, if you care to read it properly) is quite imaginative, shall we say, in it's interpretation of the rules.

Like the McLaren brake/steer system, which so helped them throughout 1997 and the beginning of 1998, it probably isn't against the literal wording of the rules, but could be banned as being against the spirit of the rules, or giving an unfair advantage.

[Mr V]

Originally posted by Gt_R
Rubens had not driven the F2002 due to the extreme lack of time and availability of one chassis

and rubens is still naive enough to think that he has a chance of beating tgf this year???

[Nicholas]

Originally posted by paulzinho
Heres a thought, Does this mean that sauber are gonna have an almost identical engine to Ferrari?

Hmmm, doubt it I wouldn't expect chassis development to affect the engine development?

Anyway, in the last half of last season Sauber used the same engines that Ferrari used at the beginning of the season presumably because Todt was pleased with them

Oh, and when Berger says the Williams chassis is bad he means in comparison to the engine. Well, probably .



I suppose with this logic Mclaren has an amazing chassis? Wish I could predict the same for the Honda teams

[paulzinho]

I can't wait until melbourne now, the excitement is really building up!!!

Just to see where everyone is in comparison to everyone else!!


AAAArrrrrrggggghhhhh the tension!!

[Gt_R]

Quote Mrv:"and rubens is still naive enough to think that he has a chance of beating tgf this year???"

Too bad for Rubens, the fact lies that Ferrari is running out of time to learn the ropes of the F2002's setup range and characteristics...and how to set up the car to suit different situations...and Michael is the better man to do it.

[Red]

Originally posted by mr v
and rubens is still naive enough to think that he has a chance of beating tgf this year???

Oh well noone can truely answer that, but if it was related to "only Schumacher tested the F1-2002" then... if they will run F1-2001 at Melbourne this is a clear sign of the favoritism that Ferrari shows to Barrichello.

[Gt_R]

Luca got his chance behind e F2002 at Imola...Rubens missed e session for unknown reasons

[Mr V]

what i actually meant, and i agree with GT_R, is that dispite all rubens talk over the last couple of weeks about how he's going to take the fight to tgf this season etc etc! is that ferrari, obviously, see the williams and mclaren as a serious threat, and the available time they've had with the new car has been given to the man with the most chance of doing the job with it!

i was being facious (and to prove that i do occasionally agree with you guys!)

[Inigo Montoya]

Well it certainly looks like it was a_good_thing!