Formula Ford Festival - Where?

PaulSands · 16 Oct 2004, 21:13 (Ref:1126200)

How long has Brands Hatch been the home of the Formula Ford Festival? I thought it had always been there but I just found a 1975 Autosport reporting on that year's festival and it was held at Snetterton. Where else has it been held?

Off at Paddock · 16 Oct 2004, 21:26 (Ref:1126209)

First couple at Snetterton, then has lived at Brands Indy.

diz · 17 Oct 2004, 23:19 (Ref:1126948)

72-75 at Snett, then Brands to date.

Andrew Kitson · 18 Oct 2004, 10:33 (Ref:1127168)

I was at a couple of the Snetterton FF festivals including the first '72 one. Here are the Snett results.

1972.
1st Ian Taylor Dulon LD9
2nd Derek Lawrence Titan Mk6
3rd Larry Perkins Elfin

1973.
1st Derek Lawrence Dulon MP15
2nd Don MacLeod Van Diemen FA73
3rd Syd Fox Hawke DL11

1974.
1st Richard Morgan Crossle 25F
2nd Frank Hopper Crossle 25F
3rd Roy Klomfass Hawke DL12 - mechanic Rory Byrne

1975.
1st Geoff Lees Royale RP21 - designed by Rory Byrne
2nd Mike Blanchet Crossle 30F
3rd Rad Dougall Royale RP21

**Peter Mallett** · 18 Oct 2004, 13:08 (Ref:1127299)

Blimey there's some names there.

diz · 18 Oct 2004, 14:37 (Ref:1127365)

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Originally posted by Andrew Kitson

1973.
1st Derek Lawrence Dulon MP15
2nd Don MacLeod Van Diemen FA73
3rd Syd Fox Hawke DL11

Andrew,
1973 was
1. Donald MacLeod VD FA73 - only man to win it twice - 1979 at Brands in Sark 1
2. Syd Fox Hawke DL11
3. Robert Arnott Merlyn Mk24

I'm not an anorak - I only practice when Ian Sowman is busy

and am going from yesterday's programme. Must go now to get a frame for your magnificent print.

jminsh · 18 Oct 2004, 14:59 (Ref:1127381)

Diz what times the next train in (You Spotter)

diz · 18 Oct 2004, 15:07 (Ref:1127385)

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Originally posted by jminsh
Diz what times the next train in (You Spotter)

Would you like a Tilting Virgin????

Andrew Kitson · 18 Oct 2004, 15:12 (Ref:1127386)

I stand corrected - you are right Diz - oops!!

jminsh · 18 Oct 2004, 15:18 (Ref:1127390)

A born again one will do

diz · 18 Oct 2004, 15:33 (Ref:1127406)

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Originally posted by jminsh
A born again one will do

The only person I have heard of who fits that criteria is Sir 'ugh hah' Cliff Richard. ;P

fines · 25 Oct 2004, 20:27 (Ref:1135608)

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Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
I was at a couple of the Snetterton FF festivals including the first '72 one. Here are the Snett results.

1972.
1st Ian Taylor Dulon LD9
2nd Derek Lawrence Titan Mk6
3rd Larry Perkins Elfin

1973.
1st Derek Lawrence Dulon MP15
2nd Don MacLeod Van Diemen FA73
3rd Syd Fox Hawke DL11

1974.
1st Richard Morgan Crossle 25F
2nd Frank Hopper Crossle 25F
3rd Roy Klomfass Hawke DL12 - mechanic Rory Byrne

1975.
1st Geoff Lees Royale RP21 - designed by Rory Byrne
2nd Mike Blanchet Crossle 30F
3rd Rad Dougall Royale RP21

Anyone having the dates for these events? I only have Nov 9 for the '75 Festival, but I'm not even sure of this. I also have Rod Bremner 4th in that race, is that correct? What car did he drive?

Milan Fistonic · 26 Oct 2004, 04:27 (Ref:1135945)

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Originally posted by fines
Anyone having the dates for these events? I only have Nov 9 for the '75 Festival, but I'm not even sure of this. I also have Rod Bremner 4th in that race, is that correct? What car did he drive?

I just happened to have the 1974 Autosports out at the moment.

The 1974 Festival was held on November 10.

4th Richard Hawkins, Dulon-Titan MP15
5th Bernard Vermillo, Van Dieman-Minister RF75
6th Jim Walsh, Van Dieman-Scholar RF74
7th Peter White, Royale-Minister RP16A
8th Tiff Needell, Elden-Scholar Mk 10C
9th Lou de Marco, Merlyn-Rowland Mk 20A
10th Eddie Jordan, Crossle-Murphy 20F

I'll dig out the others later.

Andrew Kitson · 26 Oct 2004, 07:14 (Ref:1136045)

Peter White, he was a nice bloke, quick too. Remember him from my days at Royale. An airline pilot for BA and very friendly with Brabham's Gordon Murray and Bernie E in those days.

Andrew Kitson · 26 Oct 2004, 07:25 (Ref:1136058)

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Originally posted by fines
Anyone having the dates for these events? I only have Nov 9 for the '75 Festival, but I'm not even sure of this. I also have Rod Bremner 4th in that race, is that correct? What car did he drive?

Rod was 4th in a Crossle 30F according to the Bingham FF book. He finished 1st on the road but was given a 10 sec pen for a jumped start.
5th and 6th were Peter White and John Bright both in RP21s.

Mystified where my programmes have gone from these Snett Festivals, annoying...still searching.

Interesting names in FF in those days. Other top sixers from 1972:
4th Dave Loring Merlyn Mk20A
5th Danny Sullivan Elden Mk8
6th Patrick Neve Merlyn Mk20A

Rob29 · 26 Oct 2004, 09:02 (Ref:1136156)

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Originally posted by fines
Anyone having the dates for these events? I only have Nov 9 for the '75 Festival, but I'm not even sure of this. I also have Rod Bremner 4th in that race, is that correct? What car did he drive?

1972 Nov 5 Fireworks after racing! I have the Motoring News reports in my 'Tiff Needell' scrapbook.
1973 Nov 4-ditto Tiff won semi final.
1974 Nov 10-Tiff 3rd in heat & semi.DUREX Team Elden!
1975-Nov 9

Milan Fistonic · 26 Oct 2004, 09:44 (Ref:1136182)

The 1972 was held on November 5.

4th David Loring, Merlyn Mk20
5th Danny Sullivan, Elden-Scholar Mk 8
6th Patrick Neve, Merlyn-Scholar Mk 20A
7th Tiff Needell, Lotus-Scholar 69F
8th Mike Taylor, Palliser-Scholar WDF2
9th Hans Binder, Merlyn-Scholar Mk 20A
10th Peter Findlay, Palliser-Rowland WDF2

Milan Fistonic · 26 Oct 2004, 09:53 (Ref:1136194)

The 1973 event was held on November 4.

4th Bob Arnott, Merlyn-Scholar Mk24
5th Graham Cuthbert, Van Diemen-Scholar FA73
6th Richard Hawkins, Titan-Titan Mk6
7th Hans Binder, Merlyn-Scholar Mk24
8th Richard Eyre, Dulon-Davron MP15
9th Dennis Shattuck, Elden-Piper Mk 10
10th Roy Klomfass, Elden-?

Milan Fistonic · 26 Oct 2004, 10:03 (Ref:1136200)

The 1975 event was held on November 9.

4th Rod Bremner, Crossle-Rowland 30F (finished first 10 sec penalty)
5th Peter White, Royale-Minister RP21
6th John Bright, Royale-Aldon RP21
7th Matthew Argenti, Van Diemen-Scholar RF75

Andrew Kitson · 26 Oct 2004, 11:45 (Ref:1136339)

The grid at Snetterton for the final of the first ever FFF in 1972. From MN.

jminsh · 27 Oct 2004, 09:45 (Ref:1137527)

Any one know which chassis is 1st and 3rd on that grid ?

I'm guessing Crossle but not sure !

diz · 27 Oct 2004, 09:50 (Ref:1137534)

Not Crossle Jason, look like Elden, but don't remember what an Elfin looked like.

Andrew Kitson · 27 Oct 2004, 10:30 (Ref:1137564)

The white one is the Team Ippokampos Elden PH10A of Mexican Johnny Gerber. Not sure of the one on pole. These Elden's had Falconer designed bodywork. Controversial at the time. Middle is I think Dave Loring's Mk20 Merlyn, with winner Ian Taylor on second row.

jminsh · 27 Oct 2004, 10:36 (Ref:1137574)

Was the Larry perkins who came 3rd the one of aussie tin top fame?

diz · 27 Oct 2004, 10:45 (Ref:1137582)

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Originally posted by jminsh
Was the Larry perkins who came 3rd the one of aussie tin top fame?

FF, F3, F2, F1, then went home to do Aussie stuff and top dog in Aussie tin tops. Probably still does stuff in historics - a bit like your good self

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