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Old 20 Nov 2005, 13:27 (Ref:1465561)   #1
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2-litre Sports Cars

While skimming through the only volume of Sport Auto that I have (1971) I was surprised to find some 2-litre Sports Cars chassis numbers listed at the 300 km d'Auvergne (August 1971 p63-65).

The cars listed are:

Marko - T212/23
Larrousse - M660/01
Elford T212/17
Bonnier T212/18
Swart B19-71/12
Burton B19-71/10
Edwards T212/26
Swietlik T210/09
Hanson Taydec 1-004 Mk 2
Crooker T210/14
Bridges B19-71/7
Robinson B16/4
Andruet/Cosson 908/02/16
Zadra T210/20
Knight Chevron-BMW B8/84
Tilmant/Dubos B16/34
Cochet Lotus 47 gt/73
Ken Walker B16/1
Hine B19-71/8

What other onformation do we have on 2-litre sports chassis numbers?

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Old 20 Nov 2005, 14:03 (Ref:1465577)   #2
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And more. The same writer, Philippe Hazan, gives chassis numbers in his article on the Sport 2-litre runners in the 1000 km de Paris (Dec 1971 p41)

Red Rose (Jaussaud-Bridges) B19/25
Finkel-Serpaggi T212-18
Canon Racing (Burton-Wollek) B19/10
Hanson-Howlings T210/14
Swietlik T210-212/9

I guess M Hazan would be a rather useful source for anyone researching this series.

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Old 20 Nov 2005, 15:37 (Ref:1465627)   #3
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I wonder if u have any more of the mags for later years with more chassis numbers
have u read the euro sports car book by the french guy yet?
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 15:49 (Ref:1465636)   #4
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Hi drifty

That's the only year I have. And no, I still haven't bought that book; maybe Santa will bring it?

I found an email: Hazan-dot-philippe-at-wanadoo-dot-fr but my French isn't good enough to ask him if he kept his notebooks from this period. Who speaks confident French?

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Old 20 Nov 2005, 16:09 (Ref:1465647)   #5
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use this site www.freetranslation.com
write in english and convert it i usually mail english and french in case they do read english i often find the translation is not a true conversion so i keep it simple
i want to know why u are reading an old race mag when the leaves need sweeping !!
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How did you know my leaves needed sweeping?!
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 16:13 (Ref:1465652)   #7
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I don't like using translation software as it usually produces utter rubbish. M Hazan would probably understand my English better than he would understand what was generated. I'll write something and get my wife to correct it.

PS I just used 1-Click on Amazon.fr - that really is one very, very clever web site.
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 16:27 (Ref:1465669)   #8
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my leaves need sweeping too so as you have nowt to do u can come over
i know what u mean about the dribble in the conversion but u can get your basic points across !!
you should ask a.hache for some help

the euro sports car book is in french but has good photos its aprox £30 i bought mine at collectors car book shop at silverstone
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 16:32 (Ref:1465673)   #9
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I just paid €42 - whatever that is in real money.
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 17:22 (Ref:1465720)   #10
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about 28 quid
look at credits in the book im sure someone has more info a sthe author has acquired info form various sources that are reachable
the lola 290 chassis records are in krecji site but not much for march and chevron 2 litre cars
i wonder if gilberg at marchives and malkie have any records?
once u know who ha dthe cars 1st the rest seems to fall into line
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 19:51 (Ref:1465832)   #11
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I don't like using translation software as it usually produces utter rubbish. M Hazan would probably understand my English better than he would understand what was generated. I'll write something and get my wife to correct it.
Allen,

Send what you want to say to fattogatt@msn.com and I'll translate for you.

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T210

Does anyone have any information on the T210 that Karl Foitek had in 1970?
Chassis number?

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Old 23 Nov 2005, 20:12 (Ref:1468711)   #13
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I found record that Foitek raced a T210 at Bremgarten on 31/05/70.
From Lola's build record, only the first 4 cars were delivered before June 1970.
Chassis # 1 is widely recorded as being driven by Bonnier
Chassis # 2 shows up as Bonnier as well although references are a bit sketchy.
Chassis # 4 is widely recorded as DeCadanet's car

This leaves chassis # 3 to be Foitek's

Can anyone confirm any of this, in particularly chassis # 2 as being one of Bonnier's cars?

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Bonnier drove Regis Fraisinnet's car in the opening round of the opening round of the Euro 2-litre championship. Eric Broadley persuaded Fraisinnet to let Bonnier drive the car as the works car wasn't ready, as according to Autosport, only one car coild be prepared in time and the customer came first... It was called the first customer chassis which I guess makes it chassis 2
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