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Old 12 Apr 2018, 14:39 (Ref:3815035)   #151
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He didn’t tell them to build a half-size white elephant pits/paddock and he didn’t tell them to build it in the wrong place. Nor to not build a bridge or tunnel. Nor to make it so half the garages can’t be seen by the paying fans opposite. That was all the circuit management.
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Old 12 Apr 2018, 15:49 (Ref:3815048)   #152
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Nothing wrong with the Wing at all . I spend many happy hours there at the Classic . It's a long way from GP spectators but so what ? Most of them wouldn't know an Indy car from an F2 car and the chances of the more informed spectators actually seeing something interesting is remote as teams are now so far up their own backsides they think it's industrial espionage if any civilian gets a look at the cars they've paid to see . Obviously D list celebrities can go where they like, when not sharing their wisdom with breathless TV interviewers .
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 09:42 (Ref:3815171)   #153
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Silverstone can't afford a footbridge but Oulton Park can...!?
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 11:39 (Ref:3815187)   #154
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Thatís funny, last time I went to Oulton, we had to cross the track between races to get to the other side
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 12:06 (Ref:3815190)   #155
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Thatís funny, last time I went to Oulton, we had to cross the track between races to get to the other side
Every time I have been to Oulton, the footbridges (they actually have more than one!) at Deer Leap and Clay Hill were both open and in use during racing.
They also opened the gates between the campsite and the paddock between races to allow a large movement of people.
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 12:48 (Ref:3815199)   #156
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Silverstone can't afford a footbridge but Oulton Park can...!?
Oulton Park, famed for being narrower than a narrow thing being narrow.

Silverstone, famed for being so wide you have to wait for the tide to change before racing

On a more serious note: building anything that could materially affect the circuit licence is a serious business; the ground in the places where a bridge might make sense is like a sponge, the water table is hilariously close to the surface as the weather makes clear to us repeatedly; and the places where a bridge might make sense would require an enormous span with no ground support. It's not like chucking a couple of planks across two piles of bricks!

The recently published development masterplan (which I can't find right now) does have at least one bridge, which IIRC will connect the hotel (one of the hotels?) across to the Wing complex and/or access from the pit straight over to the Wing.

I hope it happens soon, in whatever form.
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 14:09 (Ref:3815215)   #157
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Silverstone used to have a footbridge over the pit straight, between Woodcote Corner and Copse.

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Old 13 Apr 2018, 14:10 (Ref:3815216)   #158
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Yes they had it up to the revamp in 2010
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Old 19 Apr 2018, 09:50 (Ref:3816472)   #159
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teams are now so far up their own backsides they think it's industrial espionage if any civilian gets a look at the cars they've paid to see .
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Silverstone used to have a footbridge over the pit straight, between Woodcote Corner and Copse.

The Motor bridge was one of the most iconic sights on any UK race track. I miss it greatly!

Of course the F1 pits are no longer at the same side of the circuit as the old Motor bridge, hence the civil engineering problems highlighted above.

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.... teams are now so far up their own backsides they think it's industrial espionage if any civilian gets a look at the cars they've paid to see . Obviously D list celebrities can go where they like, when not sharing their wisdom with breathless TV interviewers .
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Bob, as even the worst lawyer in the world could tell you, if both parties to a contract want to re-negotiate the terms, then there is no court in the world that can stop them.
How curious. Specially when I still have the idea to have a degree as a lawyer myself.
Because journos and lawyers are related professions...
And have some lawyer friends that gave me advice about that...

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Wing is a total waste of time and space, the sheer fact you need to provide a bus service to even get there shows you that. I have been inside, it is a concrete wasteland like Wembley. Not overly pleasant even compared to other similar places.

I know Silverstone is a large site, but really, why did they not just knock what was there down, take a year off and build it there, doing what they have simply shows the massive errors made and the woeful decision making taken, largely by people that are not there anymore due to the place running itself into the ground!

I know it would have meant not running F1 or GP for a year, but is this hopeless situation really worth that? No.

despite hosting ALL the major championships any track really can hope to each year!
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Thatís funny, last time I went to Oulton, we had to cross the track between races to get to the other side
Which just shows how long it is since you went there, I guess
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Old 25 Apr 2018, 16:59 (Ref:3817356)   #165
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Wing is a total waste of time and space, the sheer fact you need to provide a bus service to even get there shows you that. I have been inside, it is a concrete wasteland like Wembley. Not overly pleasant even compared to other similar places.

I know Silverstone is a large site, but really, why did they not just knock what was there down, take a year off and build it there, doing what they have simply shows the massive errors made and the woeful decision making taken, largely by people that are not there anymore due to the place running itself into the ground!

I know it would have meant not running F1 or GP for a year, but is this hopeless situation really worth that? No.

despite hosting ALL the major championships any track really can hope to each year!
Point one - the bus service is offered at the Classic but you can walk if you want.

Point 2 - Silverstone is a bloody big place and if I can get between old and new pits quicker by free bus so much the better

Point 3 - you will never mistake the inside of the Wing with the Royal Opera House but so what , that just means it is like every other pits I have been in ....And when it is full of Historic F1 and sportscars I don't really lose too much sleep over the architecture .

It is far from my favourite track but going there is much more fun than making moaning about it (and much else besides ) a life's work ....
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